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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    But wasn't it the company not obeying government regulations that caused the death of their employee? Isn't that like saying we don't need laws against killing, cos if people don't obey them other people will die?
    There are 2 schools of thought on the subject. Some believe that we don't need government regulations because they believe the industries will handle it competently without being told to. Some believe the industries will allow dangerous situations to exist in the name of efficiency.

    I come down on the pro-OSHA side of the question. My husband is a retired construction worker who now teaches OSHA safety classes part time. He has told me many stories of companies creating and allowing unsafe working conditions. It costs them money to have safety equipment and safety requirements sometimes slows job completion. Some object to safety inspections because they are subject to fines if found in violation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    But wasn't it the company not obeying government regulations that caused the death of their employee? Isn't that like saying we don't need laws against killing, cos if people don't obey them other people will die?
    My point is more that regulations don't necessarily prevent anything. There are plenty laws against murder yet they happen all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PolWatch View Post
    There are 2 schools of thought on the subject. Some believe that we don't need government regulations because they believe the industries will handle it competently without being told to. Some believe the industries will allow dangerous situations to exist in the name of efficiency.

    I come down on the pro-OSHA side of the question. My husband is a retired construction worker who now teaches OSHA safety classes part time. He has told me many stories of companies creating and allowing unsafe working conditions. It costs them money to have safety equipment and safety requirements sometimes slows job completion. Some object to safety inspections because they are subject to fines if found in violation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    My point is more that regulations don't necessarily prevent anything. There are plenty laws against murder yet they happen all the time.
    Not the same thing and you know that. Govt Regulation of workplace hazards are permanent, once they are made to fix them. Its predictable, some one reports a workplace hazard to oasha they come they determine if its legit, they company is mandated to fix it.

    Murder is strictly an unpredictable human behavior
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Not the same thing and you know that. Govt Regulation of workplace hazards are permanent, once they are made to fix them. Its predictable, some one reports a workplace hazard to oasha they come they determine if its legit, they company is mandated to fix it.

    Murder is strictly an unpredictable human behavior
    So are accidents. Even with OSHA compliance accidents happen.


    Let me clarify that I'm not saying there shouldn't be safety rules and standards and such. I'm saying government isn't the solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    You don't need a legal society you need a moral society. It is my belief that more a society depends on legality the less it depends on morality.
    When money enters the equation, morality is forgotten or justified into unimportance....enter the idea that ignoring the morality of providing a safe environment will cost you less than the fines for failure to comply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PolWatch View Post
    When money enters the equation, morality is forgotten or justified into unimportance....enter the idea that ignoring the morality of providing a safe environment will cost you less than the fines for failure to comply.
    How many people would work for a company that ignored the safety of it's employees?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    How many people would work for a company that ignored the safety of it's employees?
    They do it every day. Depends on how badly they need a job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    How many people would work for a company that ignored the safety of it's employees?
    Untold numbers and unions were always the safest workplaces, because they forced unsafe conditions to be fixed.
    History is riddled with workplace disasters PRE Oasha because unscrupulous greedy employers made workers work in death traps.
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    Thats not an insult thats a statement and he attempts to insult me in every thread, we have history.
    Matty you cant get to me, your reputation for being vile, vulgar and insulting and whining proceeds you everywhere you go,.

    Theres people on the right here that never resort to YOUR macs, blackrooks Libhater an Reason10s garbage. They get treated with the same respect they give. You in turn get what your hand calls for.

    You right wing bomb throwers cant stand that you cant move me, you cant dazzle me with your verbal bull$#@! and im better at it than you. You need to shuffle on along and try to play with someone else. You might get better results So have a nice day


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