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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypso Jones View Post
    People are choosing. For instance how many states have said NO to same sex marriage and the courts overturn the decision of the voters. THAT is legislating from the bench. When people vote for or against something and they have the majority and it passes that should be it.
    I realize GA that you were talking to those who claim Christians are the problem. I am glad you directed your remarks to those who support SSM and Aborting babies.
    This I s not a democracy. A community cannot simply decide, by majority, what is legal and what is not, on issues like this. It simply doesn't work that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    States' Rights is code for discrimination. States don't have rights. Individuals do. My "community" would run every bigot "Christian" right out. But we know that's discrimination, don't we?
    It's common sense, actually.
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
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    Quote Originally Posted by common View Post
    its in the 10 commandments
    bfd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    You have a terminal disease. It's called Missinpointitis. Luckily for you, Arrow Industries has developed a cure. It's called Gobaktoskoolitol.
    You're saying this issue will not be framed as a 14th Amendment issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    bfd
    Yes! Big $#@!ing deal. Murder, theft, lying...why the $#@! not? The prohibitions against such were just the writings of bronze age goatherders, so who cares?
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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    You're saying this issue will not be framed as a 14th Amendment issue?
    No, I'm saying you're completely missing the point, as usual.
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    States' Rights is code for discrimination. States don't have rights. Individuals do. My "community" would run every bigot "Christian" right out. But we know that's discrimination, don't we?
    Incorrect. States rights was used as a code word for discrimination in the run up to the Civil War until well past WWII. But that isn't what states rights are.

    During the Articles of Confederation the states realized that the federal government wasn't able to do anything. They wanted to give it real authority just not too much. The Constitution achieved that. The states only ceded limited enumerated powers to the federal government and retained all other powers for themselves.

    It is a simple concept made difficult by public schools. On purpose IMO.

    It is a sad state of affairs when one mentions the word federalism and people stare at you and drool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    This I s not a democracy. A community cannot simply decide, by majority, what is legal and what is not, on issues like this. It simply doesn't work that way.
    Study the difference between democracy and republic and report back- only if you have an intelligent response, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Yes! Big $#@!ing deal. Murder, theft, lying...why the $#@! not? The prohibitions against such were just the writings of bronze age goatherders, so who cares?
    Any reasonably moral person, god or no god, would arrive at the same code for living.

    Don't steal.
    Don't murder
    Don't lie
    Don't $#@! you neighbor's spouse
    Don't want for your neighbor's $#@!.

    Yeah, BFD. Who the $#@! couldn't arrive at similar rules by the time they have any sort of reasoning skills? Nothing supernatural needed there. No stone tablets. No burning bushes. Just common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Any reasonably moral person, god or no god, would arrive at the same code for living.

    Don't steal.
    Don't murder
    Don't lie
    Don't $#@! you neighbor's spouse
    Don't want for your neighbor's $#@!.

    Yeah, BFD. Who the $#@! couldn't arrive at similar rules by the time they have any sort of reasoning skills? Nothing supernatural needed there. No stone tablets. No burning bushes. Just common sense.
    Sure. Doesn't change the fact that the "Ten Commandments" were the most foundational work of morality to have ever existed and that "BFD" was used as inspiration for every code of law in the Western world.
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
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