Democrat party defector story

[maineman]

I never told you that.

The way I see this, you are not interested in truth. I have given you my own intel estimate based on the study of a half dozen experts who were there. I am not willing to call them all a liar.

If you were a high ranking naval officer as you told Mister Veritis, I think you know that Bush was honest but you are angry or something. I think you assumed too much.

Now, are we done?

did Bush read the NIE's or didn't he?

[Bob]

did Bush read the NIE's or didn't he?

You were there since you are so certain. Tell us all.

I am done. Let others deal with you.

[The Sage of Main Street]

who cares? Tenet believed Saddam had them. BUSH believed Saddam had them. All he had to say was, "I believe that Saddam has stockpiles of Weapons of Mass Destruction". He and his team did not say that. That went that one step further and told a little fib. Because they knew that there were some doubts... some of the info was years old... some of it came from only one source and that source might not have been all that reliable... some of it came from satellite imagery interpretation that was open to alternative interpretations... they KNEW that the case might have been, according to Tenet, a "slam dunk" but it was NOT absolute. There WAS doubt. They said there was NOT. That was a lie. You cannot spin it away from that fact.

There was no doubt that the American people would believe anything Bush told them, as long as it was connected to a way that made them feel they were getting even for 9/11.

Again, nowhere do the designated critics point out that the Decider wouldn't have sent in ground troops to get slaughtered by gas. Troops would pass out in the desert if they wore their gas masks very long, so they had no real protection against these imaginary weapons.

Bush never believed in anything he said about Saddam, but it keeps the public distracted by partisan bickering if an issue is manufactured out of something that was disproved once Bush sent the troops in. After he chickened out of Tora Bora because of high casualties in the initial American probe, that proved he never would have sent troops into Iraq if he believed there was any way possible that Saddam had WMDs.

[The Sage of Main Street]

Even carriers have SCIFs.

May I offer you another shovel. Keep digging that hole. While I never served afloat I did serve airborne. And as an Army officer in a Joint billet I did serve with Admirals, and Generals from the Marine Corps, Army, and Air Force.

This reminds me of the 1923 Army-Navy game, played in New York's polo grounds. It ended in a 0-0 tie.

so you admit that you never watched an afloat staff operate?

why not just say so up front?

and what rank did you retire at, btw?

[MisterVeritis]

did Bush read the NIE's or didn't he?

It is a rare thing for anyone to read the national intelligence estimates.

[MisterVeritis]

This reminds me of the 1923 Army-Navy game, played in New York's polo grounds. It ended in a 0-0 tie.

LOL. I was thinking of the Army-Navy rivalry before the start of WWII, actually. It ended in the losses at Pearl Harbor.

[maineman]

Navy's won 13 in row. time for the cadets to wave the white flag.