Texas Preparing to Defy Supreme Court on Marriage

[zelmo1234]

[QUOTE=TrueBlue;1087308]

Jesus never condemned homosexuality or Gay or Lesbian people. Period. And obviously God did not think it was the grave "sin" that you and others think it may be otherwise He would have written an Eleventh Commandment condemning it only He didn't. The Scriptures that are used by bigots to try to throw at Gay people to condemn them are actually speaking to other things very different than the condemnation of homosexuals. Biblical scholars have brought that out time and time and again and I would be glad to show you what they say about those Scriptures if you are interested.

The "sin" in both Heterosexual AND Homosexual orientations is not that people are Heterosexual or Homosexual in and of itself but that they are promiscuous. That is what God abhors and what Jesus told the woman at the well that she should "go and sin no more" about. He was speaking to her promiscuity. You have to remember that she was not Gay or a Lesbian.

The Constitution was written so that states would not be empowered to overturn or defy U.S. Supreme Court rulings with their own laws. That is clearly understood by law scholars and all others with clear-thinking minds. The SCOTUS ruling becomes the Law of the Land. End of story.

So then you are denying that the Bible talks about the sin of a man lying with an man and a women lying with a women?

What other parts of the scripture are not true? You see I believe it all, and thus understand that my second marriage to the red head makes me an adulterer, so I live a chosen lifestyle of sin. You have chosen to live the gay lifestyle and thus have chosen a lifestyle of sin, no better or worse than mine!

What is so hard to understand.

And last the Supreme Court was set up to uphold the constitution, and it that document it says that what powers are not specifically given to the federal government, are reserved to the States. When a court becomes an activist political body that is rewriting the constitution, it becomes the duty of the States to throw off such government and sever those ties.

As outlined in the Declaration.

[zelmo1234]

That all depends on how you interpret certain teachings. But even so, if it truly is a sin, it is no worse than any others. The whole reason for Christ coming to earth was to forgive us of our everyday sins, no?


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Wonderful and truthful post, as usual! Thanks

[TrueBlue]

So then you are denying that the Bible talks about the sin of a man lying with an man and a women lying with a women?

It talks about it but not in the context that you and others feel that it does. That Scripture is speaking to a heterosexual man and/or woman engaging in homosexual activities which is not the "normal" thing for them to do. It is not addressing those who are already predisposed to being homosexual whose normal inclinations would be to lay with a member of their own sex. Therein lies the difference. But bigots often use that Scripture as well as others to proclaim that Gay and Lesbian people are sinners when in effect that is not true. It is the sin of promiscuity that God abhors, as is exemplified by the woman at the well (who was not a Lesbian) that Jesus told to "go and sin no more." In other words He was telling her to stop her promiscuous heterosexual lifestyle. But it does not speak to homosexuality in and of itself as being sinful which it is not anymore than it is by merely being a heterosexual. Promiscuity in both sexual orientations is what is sinful to God.

Biblical scholars have addressed these Scriptures and their meaning.

How do you interpret Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13, man should not lay with man?
http://www.gaychristian101.com/how-d...-with-man.html

What other parts of the scripture are not true? You see I believe it all, and thus understand that my second marriage to the red head makes me an adulterer, so I live a chosen lifestyle of sin. You have chosen to live the gay lifestyle and thus have chosen a lifestyle of sin, no better or worse than mine!

What is so hard to understand.

And what makes you think I live "....the gay lifestyle...."? Have you ever stopped to think that I am a mere supporter of LGBT rights? Just the same as many White people were supporters of Black people's rights during the early Sixties without actually being a part of their race or community.

And you further ask "What is so hard to understand." As to what is so hard to understand, it is when I see people using inappropriate Scriptures to try to justify their hate and intolerance for the Gay community that I find myself asking that very question as well. They should well understand that those inappropriate Scriptures are not speaking of condemning Gays at all.

And last the Supreme Court was set up to uphold the constitution, and it that document it says that what powers are not specifically given to the federal government, are reserved to the States. When a court becomes an activist political body that is rewriting the constitution, it becomes the duty of the States to throw off such government and sever those ties.

As outlined in the Declaration.

The Federal Courts interpret the Constitution, and their rulings take precedence over any state laws and the states must comply with the SCOTUS rulings or face very expensive lawsuits, etc. which in the end would still compel them to obey those rulings. Like it or not a SCOTUS ruling becomes the Law of the Land for both sides. End of story.

[Cthulhu]

Well TrueBlue said Biblical scholars said so.

So it must be true.



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[GRUMPY]

TrueBlue, every time a man has sex with another man or a woman has sex with another woman, both are desecrating their bodies, which are temples built by God. It's a sin that is as bad as going into a church and desecrating it.

unless of course the gals are hot and they make a grumpy sandwich.....

[GRUMPY]

Blackrook, And yet Jesus Christ spoke not one word against homosexuality. But I'll tell you what the real desecration is -- ABORTION. And it is unfortunately being done by Heterosexuals, not homosexuals, and that actually takes a life or several.

forget jesus, homosexuality is a mental/personality disorder....

[GRUMPY]

Is beating off ok?

yes, beating off is okay....

[GRUMPY]

Can we give Texas back to Mexico?

you won't have to give it, within two generations a large swath of the sw will move to secede from this union...that will include a big piece of texas....

[GRUMPY]

[QUOTE=TrueBlue;1087308]

Jesus never condemned homosexuality or Gay or Lesbian people. Period. And obviously God did not think it was the grave "sin" that you and others think it may be otherwise He would have written an Eleventh Commandment condemning it only He didn't. The Scriptures that are used by bigots to try to throw at Gay people to condemn them are actually speaking to other things very different than the condemnation of homosexuals. Biblical scholars have brought that out time and time and again and I would be glad to show you what they say about those Scriptures if you are interested.

The "sin" in both Heterosexual AND Homosexual orientations is not that people are Heterosexual or Homosexual in and of itself but that they are promiscuous. That is what God abhors and what Jesus told the woman at the well that she should "go and sin no more" about. He was speaking to her promiscuity. You have to remember that she was not Gay or a Lesbian.

The Constitution was written so that states would not be empowered to overturn or defy U.S. Supreme Court rulings with their own laws. That is clearly understood by law scholars and all others with clear-thinking minds. The SCOTUS ruling becomes the Law of the Land. End of story.

again, leave jesus be for christ's sake....this is a mental illness issue plain and simple....

[GRUMPY]

That's a most reasonable request since it truly belongs to them in the first place.

that has got to take the cake for the stupidest statement of the day....land belongs only to the one able and willing to hold it son...