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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    It just astonishes me that with all the money we spend and technology we develop for fighting that soldiers are being reduced to glorified pack mules . I'm pretty damn sure my (at the time 130 lb., but tough as nail grandfather) didn't run around Europe in WW 1 , carrying packs heavier that he was.
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    Soldiers have always been pack mules. The complete kit usually weighed a lot whether we're talking about a Roman legionary or a WW2 infantryman.
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    Anyway, it's patently obvious that this has nothing whatsoever to do with military efficiency. This is social engineering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Soldiers have always been pack mules. The complete kit usually weighed a lot whether we're talking about a Roman legionary or a WW2 infantryman.
    Yes but with our current technology A.T. hikers can exist for weeks with like 30 pounds of gear and food. If you ad a couple of guns and knives to that it would still only be 50 or so pounds

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Yes but with our current technology A.T. hikers can exist for weeks with like 30 pounds of gear and food. If you ad a couple of guns and knives to that it would still only be 50 or so pounds
    Hikers aren't being shot at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Hikers aren't being shot at.
    Nor are they being indoctrinated into the art of killing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Nor are they being indoctrinated into the art of killing.
    If they're going to war one would hope they gain at some familiarity with said art.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    If they're going to war one would hope they gain at some familiarity with said art.
    In the Marines, every Marine is trained in basic marksmanship and esprit de corps, so even women Marines have a basic understanding of how to kill the enemy.

    However, it is nowhere near the level of intensity and refinement that is achieved in the infantry and special operations.

    Put another way, Marine Corps boot camp teaches you how to be a Marine, whereas the Marine Corps infantry teaches you how to be a killer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Hikers aren't being shot at.
    What are all the things they NEED to carry and with modern technology why does it have to weight so much? Especially the things that carry that apparently stop rifle rounds?
    Also carrying that amount of weight would make you a sitting duck when you were being shot at.
    It seems completely at odds with an otherwise high tech, first class military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    In the Marines, every Marine is trained in basic marksmanship and esprit de corps, so even women Marines have a basic understanding of how to kill the enemy.

    However, it is nowhere near the level of intensity and refinement that is achieved in the infantry and special operations.

    Put another way, Marine Corps boot camp teaches you how to be a Marine, whereas the Marine Corps infantry teaches you how to be a killer.
    I'd imagine actually doing it is quite a shock regardless of how much training one has had.
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