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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett Nortje View Post
    It is in this place that these people are denied citizenship. this means they cannot work there. they end up living on boats, but, since the burmese do not want them there, they could get the working class's unemployed children to build them boats, yes?

    If they live in camps, this can be rectified by giving them low paying jobs - to tax and garner money from. if they were to face life or death, they could convert their religion, yes? this would see them become more accepted in burma, of course.

    But, let's say all else fails? how much would it cost to give them old boats fro china or japan or south korea? these are scrapped anyways, and then they will have their escape.

    http://time.com/3907039/the-plight-o...ames-nachtwey/

    Why doesn't some "peace loving Muslim Country" come and get them?

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    Rohingya village burned to the ground...

    Rohingya say village lost to spiraling conflict
    Fri, Sep 08, 2017 - The villagers said the soldiers came first, firing indiscriminately. Then came civilians, accompanying the soldiers, to loot and burn. Now in Bangladesh, 20 Muslims and Hindus gave interviews in which they recounted how they were forced out of their village of Kha Maung Seik in Myanmar’s Rakhine State on Aug. 25. “The military brought some Rakhine Buddhists with them and torched the village,” said Kadil Hussein, 55. “All the Muslims in our village, about 10,000, fled. Some were killed by gunshots, the rest came here. There’s not a single person left,” he said.
    Hussein is staying with hundreds of other new arrivals at the Kutapalong refugee settlement, already home to thousands of Rohingya who fled earlier. Nearly 150,000 Rohingya have arrived in Bangladesh since Aug. 25, when insurgents of the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army launched attacks on security forces in Rakhine. Reuters interviewed villagers from Kha Maung Seik and neighboring hamlets, who described killings and the burning of homes in the military response to the insurgent attacks. Reuters has been unable to verify their accounts. Access to the area has been restricted since October last year, when the same insurgent group attacked police posts, killing nine.

    Myanmar says its forces are in a fight against “terrorists.” State media has accused Rohingya militants of burning villages and killing civilians of all religions. Myanmar does recognize the 1.1 million Rohingya as citizens, labeling them illegal immigrants from Bangladesh. The refugees from Kha Maung Seik and from numerous other villages across the north of Rakhine say Myanmar forces and ethnic Rakhine Buddhists are intent on forcing them out. One refugee, Body Alom, 28, said he hid in forest with thousands of others when the soldiers arrived. He waited for hours before emerging to look for his family. He says he saw corpses in paddy fields and eventually found his mother and brother dead with gunshot wounds. Two other villagers said they saw bodies in the fields. “It wasn’t safe, so I just left them,” he said. “I had no chance to give them a burial.”


    Houses are on fire in Gawdu Zara village, Rakhine, Myanmar, yesterday. Reporters saw new fires burning yesterday in the Burmese village that had been abandoned by Rohingya Muslims, and where pages from the Koran were seen ripped and left on the ground.

    A military official denied that Buddhist civilians were working with authorities and instead accused Muslims of attacking other communities. “The military arrived at the village later, but did not find any bodies,” said the military source, who declined to be identified because he is not authorized to speak to media. Another military source in the state capital, Sittwe, said Kha Maung Seik was in the conflict zone and clear information about what happened had yet to emerge. The main village of Kha Maung Seik was home to a mixed community, with Rohingya Muslims in the majority along with about 6,000 Rakhine Buddhists, Hindus and others. The village is known to the Rohingya as Foira Bazar for its market of about 1,000 shops where everyone did business.

    However, relations have been strained for some time. A government plan to grant Hindus citizenship, violence in the state in 2012 and October last year, and an identity card scheme that the Rohingya rejected as it implied they were foreign, all contributed to tension, the refugees said. Since October, more soldiers were posted near the village, with border police. Patrols went house-to-house arresting anyone suspected of having militant links, they said.

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    Myanmar's Aung San Suu Kyi blames fake news amid crisis
    Sept. 6 (UPI) -- Myanmar's Aung San Suu Kyi condemned international coverage of the migrant crisis in the country's Rakhine state, likening reports of atrocities to fake news or "misinformation."
    Suu Kyi, the recipient of a Nobel Peace Prize in 1991, reportedly told Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan a "huge iceberg of misinformation" is obscuring the truth about what is taking place among Myanmar's Muslim minority, according to the BBC. The statement from Suu Kyi's office comes as more people, including human rights activists, are calling on the de facto leader of Myanmar to return her Nobel prize. The latest round of violence began Aug. 25, when armed Rohingya militants attacked state police posts, resulting in a military retaliation.

    Armed Buddhist civilians and security forces then burned entire Rohingya villages and fired on residents, forcing many Muslim families to flee to safety, across the border to Bangladesh. State officials, including Myanmar's border security minister, said the destruction of villages was part of the militants' strategy.


    Myanmar’s Aung San Suu Kyi has slammed international news coverage of the violence in the country's Rakhine state as "misinformation."

    Suu Kyi has so far admitted to problems in Rakhine state, but dismissed reports of ethnic cleansing, according to the BBC. She has also said there are fake news photographs of violence that are being passed around with the "aim of promoting the interest of the terrorists." Critics say the government is partly to blame, because reporters are being banned from accessing conflict zones. "If they allowed the U.N. or human rights bodies to go to the place to find out what is happening then this misinformation is not going to take place," said BBC Burmese Service's Tin Htar Swe.

    Suu Kyi's office has previously described an account of sexual assault, provided by a Rohingya woman, as "fake rape" on a government-run Facebook page, according to The Guardian. The United Nations has described the Rohingya as the world's most persecuted minority.

    https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...&utm_medium=17
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    Muslim slaughter of Hindus in Myanmar's Rakhine state mass grave...

    'Mass Hindu grave' found in Myanmar's Rakhine state
    The Myanmar authorities have accused Muslim Rohingya militants of killing 28 Hindu villagers whose bodies were allegedly found in a mass grave. The army says the bodies of 20 women and eight men and boys were found in two pits in northern Rakhine state.
    The state has been in turmoil since 25 August when Rohingya militants launched deadly attacks on police posts. Over 400,000 Rohingya have since fled an offensive by the military, which the UN accuses of ethnic cleansing. Hindus as well as members of the majority Buddhist population in Myanmar (also called Burma) have also been displaced from their homes by the violence in Rakhine. The military denies widespread reports it has committed atrocities, saying it only targeted those belonging to the militant Arakan Salvation Rohingya Army (Arsa) which launched the attacks.


    Hindus have also been displaced by the violence in Rakhine and have sought refuge in Bangladesh

    On Monday, the Myanmar government's Information Committee said in a Facebook post, accompanied with a graphic photo, that the mass Hindu grave had been found near the village of Yebawkya in Rakhine. It said 300 Arsa militants had rounded up about 100 villagers and killed most of them on 25 August, the same date as the start of the latest phase of the conflict, in claims attributed to an unnamed Yebawkya villager. The claims could not be independently verified. Authorities have restricted journalists and independent observers from freely travelling in Rakhine state, citing security concerns. But a BBC reporter has spoken to Hindus who fled from Rakhine to Bangladesh and said they were threatened and attacked by Arsa. They also said some Hindus had been killed and some houses burned by the militants.


    The claims were posted on the Myanmar government's Information Committee Facebook page

    Hindu villagers in the Yebawkya area told the AFP news agency that Rohingya militants attacked their communities on 25 August, killing many and taking others into the forest. The Hindus have said they were attacked by Arsa because the militants suspected they were government spies. Arsa has consistently denied such accusations, and on Monday a spokesman told Reuters news agency that claims of its militants killing villagers were "lies". Buddhists are the majority in Rakhine state but there are also Hindu and Muslim communities as well as the Rohingya. The Rohingya - a stateless mostly Muslim minority - are widely despised in Myanmar, where they are considered to be illegal migrants from Bangladesh, despite the fact that some have been in Myanmar for generations. Bangladesh, which now hosts about 800,000 Rohingya, also denies them citizenship.


    Some Hindus fleeing the violence have been housed in temporary camps in Rakhine

    Inside Rakhine, bitter ethnic tensions have led to waves of communal violence in the past. Myanmar's military says its operation is aimed at rooting out Rohingya militants and has repeatedly denied targeting civilians. But many of those who fled to Bangladesh accuse the military and Buddhist mobs of beating and killing villagers and razing their communities. Earlier this month the UN special rapporteur on human rights in Myanmar, Yanghee Lee, said more than 1,000 people may have been killed in the conflict, most of them Rohingya. The army says some 400 people have been killed during military operations, the vast majority of them Arsa militants. But BBC correspondents say it is very likely that many of them were civilians. Thousands of young men joined the attacks in support of Arsa, armed with machetes and bamboo sticks, but very few were trained and armed militants, they say.

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    Guterres tells Myanmar to end nightmare...

    Rohingya: UN chief tells Myanmar to end nightmare
    Friday 29th September, 2017 - At least 15 people drowned and scores are feared missing after a boat carrying Rohingya families capsized off Bangladesh on Thursday, as UN chief Antonio Guterres exhorted Myanmar's leaders to end the refugees' "nightmare".
    The growing Rohingya refugee crisis prompted the UN Security Council to hold a rare public meeting on Myanmar, with the US slamming the country for trying "to cleanse the country of an ethnic minority" while Beijing and Moscow backed the Myanmar authorities. More than half a million Rohingya Muslims have fled to Bangladesh in the last month, after the military in Buddhist-majority Myanmar launched vicious operations against Rohingya rebels.


    Witnesses and survivors said the vessel that overturned on Thursday was just meters from the coast in rough waters, after it was lashed by torrential rain and high winds. Local police inspector Moahmmed Kai-Kislu told AFP 15 bodies including at least 10 children and four women had so far washed ashore, and there were fears the number could still rise. "They drowned before our eyes. Minutes later, the waves washed the bodies to the beach," said Mohammad Sohel, a local shopkeeper.

    Rare meeting

    Seven of the UN's 15-member Security Council voted to hold the body's first public meeting on Myanmar since 2009, though they failed to arrive at a joint resolution. Guterres urged authorities to halt military operations and open humanitarian access to its conflict-wracked western region. "The situation has spiralled into the world's fastest developing refugee emergency, a humanitarian and human rights nightmare," he said, while calling for those displaced from the conflict to be allowed to return home. The UN chief noted that the "systemic violence" could cause unrest to spill into the central part of Myanmar's Rakhine state, threatening 250 000 Muslims with displacement.

    A donors' conference would be held on October 9, he said. Some of the strongest criticism came from US envoy Nikki Haley, who said: "We cannot be afraid to call the actions of the Burmese authorities what they appear to be: a brutal, sustained campaign to cleanse the country of an ethnic minority. "And it should shame senior Burmese leaders who have sacrificed so much for an open, democratic Burma," she added, in what appeared to be a rebuke to the country's Nobel Peace Prize-winning leader Aung San Suu Kyi, whose reputation as a human rights champion has been left battered by the crisis. Burma is an alternative name for Myanmar.

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    Rohingya Muslims can return: Myanmar's Suu Kyi relents
    Friday 29th September, 2017 - Following international pressure and a meeting with Foreign Office Minister Mark Field, Myanmar leader Aung San Suu Kyi has declared that Rohingya Muslims can now return to Myanmar.
    Suu Kyi said that the hundreds of thousands of Rohingya Muslims, who fled the violence and persecution in Myanmar will now be allowed to return. According to reports from the region, the country's de facto leader gave her "strong commitment" during a meeting with Field. After an estimated 400,000 fled across the border into Bangladesh in the wake of violence from nationalist militias, the UN titled the treatment of the Rohingya in Myanmar as “ethnic cleansing.” Nationalist militias have been accused of torching dozens of villages in Rakhine State, killing and gang-raping Muslims in their path. Further, Myanmar government has been criticized of stoking ethnic tensions which have seen ultra-nationalist Buddhist mobs surround many Muslim Rohingya villages. Due to the violence, the Rohingya have fled Buddhist-majority Myanmar, with many of them packed into existing camps or huddled in makeshift settlements that have come up along roadsides and in open fields on the border with Bangladesh.

    The region has drawn a lot of international criticism, in the wake of the situation, and now Field has questioned, “How many [Rohingya] will feel confident enough with the security implications of what has happened in the country to return?" He added that the treatment of the Rohingya in Myanmar in recent weeks "is an absolute and unacceptable tragedy.” So far, Suu Kyi has drawn widespread international condemnation for her refusal to condemn the actions of Myanmar's security forces. She has instead argued that there has been "an iceberg of misinformation" surrounding the reports from refugees of their villages being burned and of people being slaughtered. Following his meeting with Suu Kyi in Myanmar's capital, Naypyidaw, Field, however, did concede that she was in a difficult position since much power still remains in the hands of Myanmar's military.


    Until two years ago, the military ruled the south-east Asian country alone. Suu Kyi currently does not have authority over the military. Field however clarified that Suu Kyi remained the best hope for democracy in Myanmar. He said, “She is in a difficult position. Under the constitution the military remains very powerful. There are only small steps that have taken place in recent years towards democracy. She finds herself treading a fine line between the international criticism, which we have obviously seen in the last six months, but also public opinion in Burma which remains very strong anti-Rohingya. Whatever else happens, she is the best hope for ongoing democracy in Burma. What would be calamitous would be for it to fall back into military dictatorship." Field added, "She is becoming increasingly aware, because I am not the only person who is telling her this, that there is much that needs to be done if the international community is going to have confidence is going to be moving into the right place and the right direction."

    Earlier this month, Suu Kyi said in a televised speech that she does not fear “international scrutiny” of her government's handling of the growing Rohingya crisis. Suu Kyi had insisted that most Muslims had not fled the state and that violence had ceased. She also noted that it was “sad” that the world was concentrated on just one of the country's problems. She added that she was "concerned" about the allegations of violence and wanted "to find out what the real problems are. There have been allegations and counter-allegations.” Suu Kyi said, “We have to listen to all of them. We have to make sure those allegations are based on solid evidence before we take action." Adding that she wanted to find out why "this exodus" of Muslims fleeing across the border to Bangladesh is happening.

    http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/2...uu-kyi-relents

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    The world’s fastest-developing refugee emergency...

    Bangladesh carving out forest land to shelter desperate Rohingya
    October 5, 2017 - Hard-pressed to find space for a massive influx of Rohingya Muslim refugees, Bangladesh plans to chop down forest trees to extend a tent city sheltering destitute families fleeing ethnic violence in neighboring Myanmar.
    More than half a million Rohingya have arrived from Myanmar’s western state of Rakhine since the end of August in what the United Nations has called the world’s fastest-developing refugee emergency. The exodus began after Myanmar security forces responded to Rohingya militants’ attacks on Aug. 25 by launching a brutal crackdown that the United Nations has denounced as ethnic cleansing. Myanmar has rejected that accusation, insisting that the military action was needed to combat “terrorists” who had killed civilians and burnt villages. But it has left Bangladesh and international humanitarian organizations counting the cost as they race to provide life-saving food, water and medical care for the displaced Rohingya. Simply finding enough empty ground to accommodate the refugees is a huge problem. “The government allocated 2,000 acres when the number of refugees was nearly 400,000,” Mohammad Shah Kamal, Bangladesh’s secretary of disaster management and relief, told Reuters on Thursday. “Now that the numbers have gone up by more than 100,000 and people are still coming. So, the government has to allocate 1,000 acres (400 hectares) of forest land.”

    Once all the trees are felled, aid workers plan to put up 150,000 tarpaulin shelters in their place. Swamped by refugees, poor Bangladeshi villagers are faced with mounting hardships and worries, including the trafficking of illegal drugs, particularly methamphetamines, from Myanmar. “The situation is very bad,” said Kazi Abdur Rahman, a senior official in the Bangladesh border district of Cox’s Bazar, where most of the Rohingya are settled. “People in Cox’s Bazar are concerned, we are also concerned, but there’s nothing we can do but accommodate them.” The pressure on the land is creating another conflict, this time environmental rather than ethnic. Last month, wild elephants trampled two refugees to death and Rahman said more such encounters appeared inevitable as more forest is destroyed.

    OVER A MILLION PEOPLE IN NEED

    U.N. agencies coordinating aid appealed on Wednesday for $434 million to help up to 1.2 million people, most of them children, for six months. Their figure includes the 515,000 who have arrived since August, more than 300,000 Rohingya who were already in Bangladesh, having fled earlier suppression, a contingency for another 91,000 and 300,000 Bangladesh villagers in so-called host communities who also need help.

    The Save the Children aid group warned of a malnutrition crisis with some 281,000 people in need of urgent nutrition support, including 145,000 children under five and more than 50,000 pregnant and breastfeeding women. “In over 20 years as a humanitarian worker, I’ve never seen a situation like this, where people are so desperate for basic assistance and conditions so dire,” Unni Krishnan, director of Save the Children’s Emergency Health Unit, said in a statement.

    U.N. agencies are wary of planning beyond six months for fear or creating a self-perpetuating crisis. Myanmar has promised to take back anyone verified as a refugee but there’s little hope for speedy repatriation. There is long-simmering communal tension and animosity toward the Rohingya in Myanmar, most of whom are stateless and derided as illegal immigrants. “This crisis isn’t going to end soon,” said a Bangladeshi interior ministry official who declined to be identified.

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    Granny says, "Dat's right - just `cause dey wanna live there don't mean dey's welcome...

    UN: Conditions Not Ripe for Return of Rohingya Refugees to Myanmar
    December 08, 2017 — The United Nations refugee agency says conditions are not ripe for the safe and stable return of hundreds of thousands of Rohingya refugees from Bangladesh to Myanmar, a country they recently fled to escape violence and persecution.
    Some 645,000 Rohingya refugees have fled to Cox's Bazar, Bangladesh, since the end of August, the United Nations reports. Although the number of new arrivals has slowed, aid officials say this does not indicate the situation in Myanmar's northern Rakhine state has improved. Two weeks ago, Myanmar and Bangladesh signed an agreement on the voluntary repatriation of Rohingya refugees. The U.N. refugee agency, which was not party to the agreement, says it is prepared to discuss arrangements for the free, safe, voluntary and dignified return of the refugees.

    But UNHCR spokesman Adrian Edwards says it is premature to repatriate the refugees, as the conditions for a stable and sustainable return do not exist. "Many refugees, as you know, have suffered severe violence and trauma," Edwards said. "Many have lost family members, relatives and friends. Many have seen their homes, their villages torched and destroyed. Deep divisions between the communities in Rakhine state remain unaddressed and humanitarian access, at this time, is not there. It is critical that the returns are not rushed or premature."

    Peace and stability must be restored, humanitarian agencies must have access to the area, and the root causes of the displacement must be dealt with in order to create an environment conducive to safe and dignified returns, Edwards said.

    https://www.voanews.com/a/conditions...s/4155535.html

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    Mass Vaccinations of Rohingya Refugees to Prevent Diphtheria Begins...

    Mass Vaccinations of Rohingya Refugees to Prevent Diphtheria Begins
    December 10, 2017 — A mass vaccination campaign is getting underway to stop diphtheria from spreading among Rohingya refugees in Cox’s Bazar, Bangladesh.
    Diphtheria, a disease that was eliminated from Bangladesh decades ago, is rapidly spreading among Rohingya refugees in Cox’s Bazar. The World Health Organization reports more than 110 suspected cases, including six deaths, have been clinically diagnosed. Health officials warn these cases could be just the tip of the iceberg. They say the refugees are extremely vulnerable to diseases as they have low vaccination coverage and are living in congested, unsanitary settlements that are breeding grounds for infectious diseases.



    Rohingya refugees wait for food at Tengkhali camp near Cox's Bazar, Bangladesh, Dec. 8, 2017. The World Health Organization reports more than 110 suspected cases of diphtheria, including six deaths, have been clinically diagnosed.



    WHO spokeswoman, Fadela Chaib, said her agency is working with the Bangladesh Ministry of Health and Family Welfare, the U.N. Children’s Fund and partners to contain the spread of diphtheria, a highly infectious respiratory disease. She said this is being done through treatment and prevention. “For example, WHO assisted for the basic training of vaccinators in several places in Cox’s Bazar for a vaccination campaign targeting all children up to six years with pentavalent DPT vaccine and pneumonia vaccines, which protect against diphtheria and other respiratory diseases,” she said.


    The campaign is set to last two weeks. The U.N. reports more than 645,000 Rohingya have fled to Cox’s Bazar since August 25 to escape violence and persecution in Myanmar. Children account for more than half of this refugee population. As a preventive measure, WHO and partners previously provided more than 700,000 people in Cox’s Bazar with oral cholera vaccine to protect them from that disease. They also recently completed a mass campaign to vaccinate more than 350,000 children against measles and rubella.


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