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Thread: Rummy ~ 'Bush was wrong about Iraq'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Technically they did, because they were the ones that set the timetable based on the Iraqi government's requests.



    They have to, to a certain degree. Forcing yourself on someone who doesn't want you is called sexual harassment and, in extreme cases, rape when you're dealing with humans, why not with nations?



    That is true, and a problem.
    a) Did Bush sign an agreement with Iraq before he removed a madman? Did Clinton agree with Saddam to fire J-Dams into his defenses? The US decides it's own foreign policy. Or it did before Obama became president.

    There is no doubt ISIS is raping and murdering and enslaving and forcing themselves on people and sexually harassing children as we speak.

    We have witnessed a series of ongoing disastrous decisions that have led us to this precipice. There really is no denying it. That some only want to place blame only shows they recognize that there is a problem. But never fear, Obama will let us know when he has a strategy to defeat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan B. Anthony View Post
    a) Did Bush sign an agreement with Iraq before he removed a madman? Did Clinton agree with Saddam to fire J-Dams into his defenses? The US decides it's own foreign policy. Or it did before Obama became president.
    Except again, our pull-out was an agreement made between the Iraqi government and the Bush administration. The U.S. has always kinda listened to other nations to a certain degree before making foreign policy decisions.

    We have witnessed a series of ongoing disastrous decisions that have led us to this precipice. There really is no denying it. That some only want to place blame only shows they recognize that there is a problem. But never fear, Obama will let us know when he has a strategy to defeat them.
    You do realize that you are one of those placing blame, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan B. Anthony View Post
    Yeah, so I've heard. Who is lying?
    besides you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan B. Anthony View Post
    a) Did Bush sign an agreement with Iraq before he removed a madman? Did Clinton agree with Saddam to fire J-Dams into his defenses? The US decides it's own foreign policy. Or it did before Obama became president.

    There is no doubt ISIS is raping and murdering and enslaving and forcing themselves on people and sexually harassing children as we speak.

    We have witnessed a series of ongoing disastrous decisions that have led us to this precipice. There really is no denying it. That some only want to place blame only shows they recognize that there is a problem. But never fear, Obama will let us know when he has a strategy to defeat them.
    it would have been good if this whole strategery thing had been worked out prior to the invasion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Except again, our pull-out was an agreement made between the Iraqi government and the Bush administration. The U.S. has always kinda listened to other nations to a certain degree before making foreign policy decisions.



    You do realize that you are one of those placing blame, right?
    At least three of Obama's Defense Secretaries told him not to pull all the troops out of Iraq. They were all fired and he did it anyway. Then, there was no one to stop the slow rise of insanity.

    Not to worry, Obama is thinking about it and will get back to us soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by del View Post
    besides you?
    That's not me in the video lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by del View Post
    it would have been good if this whole strategery thing had been worked out prior to the invasion
    Agree that Clinton could have handled it better than he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan B. Anthony View Post
    Whenever del meets a real man he just starts crying.
    Something you want to tell us, Sue?


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    Going into Iraq was where Bush was wrong, it's that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    Something you want to tell us, Sue?

    As a gay white male, I have already told you. I find it very liberating.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Going into Iraq was where Bush was wrong, it's that simple.
    And pulling all the troops out is where Obama was wrong. Simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan B. Anthony View Post
    As a gay white male, I have already told you. I find it very liberating.

    And pulling all the troops out is where Obama was wrong. Simple.
    That's only if you believe Isis is a threat to United States security.

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