No nation was ever founded by conservatives, for in order to do so, you'd need to stop whining and do something - or by clueless libertarians who think all things started at their birth. mc5
I don't think conservatives understand themselves. They seem to miss the fact they are a disparate group that only votes together for reasons that can be summed up as 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend.' Step outside that bubble in which liberals progressives democrats immigrants and other assorted aliens exist as the foe and there is nothing to hold on to. Take Romney, had he not changed who he was he would not have been their candidate. If you cannot be yourself who are you. Consider any other element. Conservatives consider themselves pro-business but as jobs were outsourced and foreign companies gained market share jobs were lost. So then which is it, do you support a bailout that helped an American company or do you support a business model that allows companies to crash along with your job? In this case you have to support government. In the end there is no core to American conservatism, the best they can do now is what they do best, point fingers at our current president. In the end they selected a candidate who wanted to govern without governing; America had enough of that last time.
""Ideas," a distinguished conservative named Richard Weaver once wrote, "have consequences."
Americans have learned something about the consequences of conservative ideas during the Bush years that they never had to confront in the more amiable Reagan period. As a way of governing, conservatism is another name for disaster. And the disasters will continue, year after year, as long as conservatives, whose political tactics are frequently as brilliant as their policy-making is inept, find ways to perpetuate their power."
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/fea...607.wolfe.html
'A Short History of Conservative Obstruction to Progress'
http://conceptualguerilla.com/essays...e-obstruction/
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Every Wednesday morning, a group of conspirators meets to plot out how to most effectively attack the federal government. This is not a group of rag-tag terrorists – they wear $2,000 suits and occupy powerful positions in society. But their ideas are politically radical and they do pose a real threat to the normal workings of government in the U.S. They are a group of leading conservatives who believe that government is a malevolent force in society and they have a fierce determination to drastically cut it back. They are convinced that the central problem in our country is too much government – too many social programs, too many regulations, and too much taxation – and they are committed to doing something about it."
http://www.governmentisgood.com/articles.php
Obamacare - The best thing Americans have done for each other since Social Security and medicare - two other liberal accomplishments.
Abortion - When conservatives show care for the living they can then care about potential life without now seeming like hypocritical, heartless fools.
Immigration - everyone in America is an immigrant less a few generations. Odd huh? Any ideas aside form finger pointing?
Minimum wage - look at our roads and you see Japanese, Korean and German autos most built by union workers with healthcare and in the case of Germany free college. Surely we can do as well. Oh and check the label too.
Gun control - guns represent, outside of certain areas, a sign of an uncivilized barbaric place, our stats show we are that place today.
Faith - The Sermon on the Mount is forgotten, that liberal preacher is honored only in words not deeds.
Drugs - the rich go to the doctor, the poor to the corner pusher, not any difference there.
Terrorists - American terrorists have killed more these last several years and they are mostly so called Christians. Huh?
"Before 1950 the political designation of “conservative” was disavowed, if not altogether disliked, by most Americans, including Republicans. Yet very soon after, and for the first time in American history, ideological “conservatism” became a more than acceptable political designation. By the 1980s, more Americans called themselves “conservatives” than “liberals.” Much of this was ambiguous, since many Americans were not truly conservative at all, except for their opposition to liberals." John Lukacs 'American Nationalism'
"Americans may have elected a Republican president and Congress, but they are unlikely to go back to a world in which one illness can devastate their last years or one storm can destroy their lives. Because government is the one institution that allows us some control over our future, conservatism, which distrusts government so much, is best viewed as a natural counter to liberalism, which, if left unchecked, tends towards wasteful bureaucracy. Indeed, as the Bush administration fully proves, conservatism remains a force of opposition even when it purports to be a governance party. And so the best that can be hoped for is that American voters will do for conservatives what they are unable to do themselves: to vote them out of office." "Why Conservatives Can't Govern" by Alan Wolfe
Whenever conservative republicans mention freedom think of those ten hand. http://www.regressiveantidote.net/Ar...f_Freedom.html
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