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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Anarcho-socialist. That's left. If libertarian, left-libertarian. Put simply, socialist.
    I am anarcho capitalist, and how I say that, I am anarcho capitalist.
    WORK AND FIGHT FOR THE REVOLUTION AND AGAINST THE INJUSTICE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    There seems to be quite a bit of confusion as to just what the Green Arrow believes on political issues. I'm not sure why, as I'm pretty much an open book on the subject. Members like kilgram seem to believe I'm as right-wing as they come, while members like Mac-7 and Bob think I'm left-wing and Boris goes so far as to call me a communist.

    So, I'm curious...where, in your opinion of my views, do I fall on the spectrum?
    You are dealing with the fringe and as such, if you say anything that does not conform to party lines you are the enemy... I.E. A liberal or conservative.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    You are dealing with the fringe and as such, if you say anything that does not conform to party lines you are the enemy... I.E. A liberal or conservative.
    The problem is when somebody declares himself as socialist, and not only that, but anarchosocialist, left of left, it is an ideology go the left of the liberalism, you expect find arguments backing that declaration, but when you find that the arguments align more with the conservative you start to doubt of that declaration.

    I am anarchist, also of the collectivist branch and I have more in common with XL or Rina Dragonborn, anarchocapitalist than with Green Arrow, and that should not happen.
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    I would say a Pragmatist. Issues can be viewed thru apolitical lenses, left and right need not apply. That said, outside that purview: Some conservative and some liberal views with a slight nod to the latter.

    Not too different from myself accept mine slight more to the former.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    Your last activity clearly pro Rand Paul and Republican sided.

    No defense of any socialist idea in the past months.

    So, based on your activity I can clearly state you're conservative. Even in your Socialist moments (a year or two ago) your conservative background was evident, however your socialist side was winning, now it is the opposite.

    And about your conservative background comes from your own words and many of the ideas that are visible in your surface.
    I'm struggling to think of a time when I haven't defended socialist ideas. @Chris and I have gotten into a number of debates on socialism where I defended socialism and advanced socialist ideas.

    As for Rand Paul, I support Rand Paul because I agree with his foreign policy and civil liberties stances, not because I agree with his economic stances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets View Post
    I would say a Pragmatist. Issues can be viewed thru apolitical lenses, left and right need not apply. That said, outside that purview: Some conservative and some liberal views with a slight nod to the latter.

    Not too different from myself accept mine slight more to the former.


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    - Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    I'm struggling to think of a time when I haven't defended socialist ideas. @Chris and I have gotten into a number of debates on socialism where I defended socialism and advanced socialist ideas.

    As for Rand Paul, I support Rand Paul because I agree with his foreign policy and civil liberties stances, not because I agree with his economic stances.

    Yes, you have always defended socialism. I think problem comes when in some topic where your choices are A or B where neither is socialism and you opine you prefer A or B some people mistake that for abandoning your true principles. For example, I will defend monarchy over democracy while still prefer anarchy over monarchy. Kilgram has always gotten confused about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Yes, you have always defended socialism. I think problem comes when in some topic where your choices are A or B where neither is socialism and you opine you prefer A or B some people mistake that for abandoning your true principles. For example, I will defend monarchy over democracy while still prefer anarchy over monarchy. Kilgram has always gotten confused about that.
    I think another problem may be that I often argue a position I don't necessarily agree with, but want to know more about it. So, I'll grill an advocate of that position until I get an answer that satisfies my questions.

    Probably makes it look like I'm part of the opposition, but meh. It's how I learn.

    *EDIT* Like in my "Should businesses be forced to serve Nazis?" thread. I'm on the fence on the whole forcing businesses to serve people thing, but @Common Sense probably thinks I support the denial of service faction by now, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    I think another problem may be that I often argue a position I don't necessarily agree with, but want to know more about it. So, I'll grill an advocate of that position until I get an answer that satisfies my questions.

    Probably makes it look like I'm part of the opposition, but meh. It's how I learn.

    *EDIT* Like in my "Should businesses be forced to serve Nazis?" thread. I'm on the fence on the whole forcing businesses to serve people thing, but @Common Sense probably thinks I support the "yes" faction by now, lol.

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    Mostly though I just can't be fit into any one partisan box, and that confuses people that only see things as right, left, or centrist. I'm probably, honestly, the true definition of a "centrist."

    One of these days, I'll write a book about my philosophy. By then, I'll probably have a name for it, lol.
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