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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Other than the French. Oops.
    you really are a $#@!wit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by del View Post
    if it wasn't for the french, we'd likely still be british subjects.

    you know about lafayette. google the comte degrasse.

    without him, the brits don't surrender at yorktown.
    I acknowledged their help in the war. Lets not forget if it wasnt for us they would be goosestepping right now
    LETS GO BRANDON
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    "C'est La Vie"

    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    I cant warm up to france, I remember what we did for them n WW2 and I remember them throwing our entire military out of their country in 1964 I believe. Kind of like yeah you died for us but now we dont need you anymore. I may be overly cynical about it but still nags at me. Yes I remember they helped us during the civil war, that was more because of their hate for england than their love of us
    Yah, the Netherlands & French came through for us during the Revolutionary War - & even @ that, it was a close-run thing. France never did recognize the CSA during the Civil War, as I recall - whether that's a good thing or no will depend on how you view the Civil War.

    Yep, we helped liberate France in WWI, & were more instrumental in WWII. But then again, we helped arm, equip, transport, supplied intel, diplomatic cover, air support & funding for the French in their doomed attempt to retake Indochina. Post-WWII was very hard on the French. We might have done them a favor if we had stayed out of VN altogether, & recommended to them forcefully that they do the same (& followed our own advice, of course).

    So, in WWI & WWII, we were acting on our own behalf. Yah, we dress up the motivations & policy & all - the Realpolitik reasons never look very good on the floats & parades. But notice how long it took us to field troops in the two World Wars. The World Wars were the death of the old empires, & the birth of the Soviets' & ours. We're still standing, the Russians have cycled through the USSR & back out the other side.

    For the balance, history is still being written. We'll just have to wait & see. The French & British? Yah, they're always @ each others' throats. That's unlikely to change, although their common interest in becoming a collective kind of superpower might yet weld them @ hip & knee. (Unlikely, I think, in my heart of hearts. But as the old folks say, You never can tell ...)

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