Sorry Leftist Americans, Your Swedish Utopia Does Not Exist

[kilgram]

Much of Europe is now a frightening place.

How is it frightening?

European eat their children or what?

[Chris]

Nima Sanandaji he is not Swedish. Sweden is lost now because of Reinfeldt open borders to multiculture many years ago. Löfven is not much better and he like Israel to much

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"Nima Sanandaji, född 30 juni 1981 i Iran, är en svensk-iransk samhällsdebattör och författare. Han var en av grundarna och drev under flera år tankesmedjan Captus, men har sedan 2012 varit fristående skribent[1]. Nima har forskat vid Chalmers tekniska högskola, Kungliga Tekniska högskolan (KTH) och Cambridgeuniversitetet."

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nima_Sanandaji

"© All right reserved Nima Sanandaji | Address: Götgatan 118, 118 62 Stockholm | Phone: 0733-960481 | Email: nima [at] sanandaji.se"

http://www.sanandaji.se/

He is Swedish by nationality. I believe he was born in Iran.

Sweden is lost now because of Reinfeldt open borders to multiculture many years ago.

Agree that that is a large part of the problem. Multiculturalism tears at the fabric of society.

[Chris]

There are probably as many definitions of capitalism as there are are capitalists and then some.

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That's what I've telling you.

[Refugee]

How is it frightening?

European eat their children or what?

I suppose it’s good if you’re a EU dead end welfare recipient.

[William]

Well, I don't think anyone seriously thinks of Sweden as Utopia - I never heard anyone say that.

Utopia. A utopia (/juːˈtoʊpiə/ yoo-TOH-pee-ə) is a community or society possessing highly desirable or near perfect qualities. The word was coined by Sir Thomas More in Greek for his 1516 book Utopia (in Latin), describing a fictional island society in the Atlantic Ocean. The term has been used to describe both intentional communities that attempt to create an ideal society, and imagined societies portrayed in fiction. It has spawned other concepts, most prominently dystopia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia

But if you look at the rankings of the countries with the highest human development index (aka standard of living,) countries like Norway, Sweden Denmark, Iceland and Finland are at the top, together with countries like Australia, the Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland, Canada and Ireland. The UK is only 16th, and the USA is 28th.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y-adjusted_HDI

And all those countries have some socialism in them, so they must be doing something right. And like a country is not the same as a business, and the things that make a company successful (making loads of money,) don't always make a country successful.

Like if I have loads of money and can afford to live in a big house surrounded by an electric fence and armed guards, but the rest of the people are starving and hate me and will kill me to take my stuff if they get the chance - what sort of life is that?

[del]

Petty argument.

Say hi to daughter in Finland?

spaniard leftist =/= american leftist

it's always a petty argument when you lose. lol

you're the one who set the parameters, not me.

[Chris]

spaniard leftist =/= american leftist

it's always a petty argument when you lose. lol

you're the one who set the parameters, not me.

And you've been proven wrong. Still petty.

[Chris]

Well, I don't think anyone seriously thinks of Sweden as Utopia - I never heard anyone say that.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia

But if you look at the rankings of the countries with the highest human development index (aka standard of living,) countries like Norway, Sweden Denmark, Iceland and Finland are at the top, together with countries like Australia, the Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland, Canada and Ireland. The UK is only 16th, and the USA is 28th.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y-adjusted_HDI

And all those countries have some socialism in them, so they must be doing something right. And like a country is not the same as a business, and the things that make a company successful (making loads of money,) don't always make a country successful.

Like if I have loads of money and can afford to live in a big house surrounded by an electric fence and armed guards, but the rest of the people are starving and hate me and will kill me to take my stuff if they get the chance - what sort of life is that?

Don't get hung up on a word like del. We should argue with words, not about words.

See this post: http://thepoliticalforums.com/thread...=1#post1201941. It takes examples from the OP article.

[William]

Don't get hung up on a word like del. We should argue with words, not about words.

See this post: http://thepoliticalforums.com/thread...=1#post1201941. It takes examples from the OP article.

No, I'm not getting hung up on a word (like anyone). Your OP used the word Utopia, so that's why I talked about it. You seemed to be saying that people are mistaken cos they think Scandinavian and Northern European countries are better than the US (or UK) - I was trying to show why people think that.

[Chris]

No, I'm not getting hung up on a word (like anyone). Your OP used the word Utopia, so that's why I talked about it. You seemed to be saying that people are mistaken cos they think Scandinavian and Northern European countries are better than the US (or UK) - I was trying to show why people think that.

Yes, you say "And all those countries have some socialism in them, so they must be doing something right." But the OP says that's historically not been the case in Sweden.