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    I'm surprised he didn't hit you with the flashlight. I was annoyed as $#@! and wanted to punch you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    My jovial self.
    Ah, OK, I see video now.

    No, not at all. You were getting back into your vehicle as requested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sachem View Post
    I'm surprised he didn't hit you with the flashlight. I was annoyed as $#@! and wanted to punch you.
    I know right? They should have just shot me on site. Think of all the money it would have saved!
    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

    Ephesians 6:12

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    good thing that 4 of them showed up....you were obviously a threat!
    Through all of our running and all of our cunning, if we couldn't laugh we just would go insane. - Jimmy Buffett

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    Quote Originally Posted by PolWatch View Post
    good thing that 4 of them showed up....you were obviously a threat!
    They also brought a canine unit actually. But that is in the second video.
    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PolWatch View Post
    good thing that 4 of them showed up....you were obviously a threat!
    You never know who is a threat and who is not until the threat manifests. If you could tell in advance, cops would never get killed in the line of duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    I know right? They should have just shot me on site. Think of all the money it would have saved!
    You were intentionally a pain in the ass and non compliant. I assume you have had run ins with law enforcement before, why provoke them?

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    The cops seemed terrified.

    They don't understand when people don't jump at their every word.

    That being said, you were being "difficult"...whatever that means.

    What was the charge? Obstruction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    Many of you know that I have had a legal $#@! fight with the state. I have already been convicted. By a simpleton jury and a silver tongued prosecutor. So I am going to go public with this and let the court of public opinion do as they will. Don't know if appealing is even worth the effort, or the money.

    Regardless, this the dash cam of the officer's cruiser. Make up your own mind. There are more videos as well, most of them are pointless though, except the one where the audio magically cuts out when they were discussing the stop. I'll upload that later.

    Charges levied were:

    Obstruction of a police officer - for failing to re-enter a vehicle when order to do so.
    Obstruction of a police officer - at the jail, for refusing to initially process, but then later doing so.
    Not purchasing/having a valid Idaho Driver's license - yeah, they got me dead to rights on this one, ignorance of the law isn't a defense, but still, they were being total $#@!s over the whole thing.

    Lame stuff starts happening around 1 minute into the video.



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    I watched the video, and I see why you were arrested and why you were found guilty. I've done over 1500 trials, and you did everything wrong from the beginning. Your actions put the cops on the defensive which is never a good thing.

    I wish I could say they were wrong, but you were your own worst enemy. You turned a simple ticket (or warning) for "impeding traffic" (too slow) to an arrest and conviction.

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    I did not see any PC to pull the driver over in the first place. Going below the speed limit should not be a problem unless it is considerably under the speed limit AND the driver is impeding the flow of traffic. Driving under the speed limit when there is little traffic should not justify a traffic stop as long as the driver is displaying good control of the vehicle. (Drunks often slow way down, thinking it makes them drive better.) I didn't see anything in the available video that would indicate the driver was impaired in any way.

    Now, that said... When the cop said to get back in the car, the driver should have got back in the car. A driver exiting the vehicle immediately sets off alarm bells and makes an already nervous cop more nervous than is healthy for either party.

    What was the charge?

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