If Jesus Returned.

[zelmo1234]

I understand it, and I understand that it's a way to keep the church going. That's all that tithing is, it's revenue for the church. Which is fine, I understand that churches have operating expenses that they have to meet, and that contributions from the people is the way they meet those obligations. But don't tell me that the money goes to God. It doesn't.

Also, please do keep in mind that the cannon bible is actually a propaganda piece put together by Constantine at the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD.
There, they determined what was Cannon, and what was Heresy, while tithing happened in many religions, for the reasons stated above, Jesus never really talked about it. And come to think of it, I don't think that Jesus ever said to stop burning lambs on an altar (God loves him some BBQ!) So, seems to me that yall got about 1900 years worth of lamb sacrifice to make up for.

Of course, if we are really getting to the brass tax of the religion, we have to talk about transubstantiation. Ever take part in the holy sacrament? According to Christian belief systems, the cracker actually turns into the body of Christ, and the wine actually turns into the blood of Christ, so in all reality, Christianity is full of Cannibal Vampires.

Yep you don't have a clue! And with the Blood and the Body, are you saying that all of his parables need to be taken as they were told or were they full of other meanings?

I get it, In order to be the most important thing, there can be NO god. But I believe that there is and that changes my view of right and wrong.

[whatukno]

Yep you don't have a clue! And with the Blood and the Body, are you saying that all of his parables need to be taken as they were told or were they full of other meanings?

I get it, In order to be the most important thing, there can be NO god. But I believe that there is and that changes my view of right and wrong.

No, actually, according to the church, transubstantiation is a real miracle that is blessed on everyone who takes part in the holy sacrament.

Now, don't get me wrong, I do believe in a God, just not YOUR God (btw, the Muslim God, and the Jewish God, same guy, and not really convinced it's the good guy.), your God is far to homicidal for my taste. The whole genocide thing, kinda a turn off as far as deities go. And, according to your book, he seems to really love him some genocide (almost as much as he loves him some BBQ!)

[Mister D]

I understand it, and I understand that it's a way to keep the church going. That's all that tithing is, it's revenue for the church. Which is fine, I understand that churches have operating expenses that they have to meet, and that contributions from the people is the way they meet those obligations. But don't tell me that the money goes to God. It doesn't.

Also, please do keep in mind that the cannon bible is actually a propaganda piece put together by Constantine at the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD.
There, they determined what was Cannon, and what was Heresy, while tithing happened in many religions, for the reasons stated above, Jesus never really talked about it. And come to think of it, I don't think that Jesus ever said to stop burning lambs on an altar (God loves him some BBQ!) So, seems to me that yall got about 1900 years worth of lamb sacrifice to make up for.

Of course, if we are really getting to the brass tax of the religion, we have to talk about transubstantiation. Ever take part in the holy sacrament? According to Christian belief systems, the cracker actually turns into the body of Christ, and the wine actually turns into the blood of Christ, so in all reality, Christianity is full of Cannibal Vampires.

It's "canon" and it had nothing to do with the Council of Nicaea or any council for that matter. The canon was consolidated over several centuries. The money goes to God? What does that even mean? Why is this in a section called "Serious"? WTF?

Idiots.

[domer76]

It's "canon" and it had nothing to do with the Council of Nicaea or any council for that matter. The canon was consolidated over several centuries. The money goes to God? What does that even mean? Why is this in a section called "Serious"? WTF?

Idiots.

"god became flesh"

serious? WTF?

[Dr. Who]

"god became flesh"

serious? WTF?

My only issue with the concept that Christ was the embodiment of God on earth, was Christ's plaint - My God, my God, why have you abandoned me! This does not substantiate the notion that Christ was the embodiment of God or even his only son. Should he not have said, Father why have you abandoned me! or would he have said nothing, because the sacrifice was preordained. I find this confusing.

[Redrose]

If Jesus came back as he really looked instead of what Christians think he looked like, most Christians would reject Christianity on the spot.

...and you know how He "really" looked?

[Mister D]

My only issue with the concept that Christ was the embodiment of God on earth, was Christ's plaint - My God, my God, why have you abandoned me! This does not substantiate the notion that Christ was the embodiment of God or even his only son. Should he not have said, Father why have you abandoned me! or would he have said nothing, because the sacrifice was preordained. I find this confusing.

That's the opening line of Psalm 22 which begins with a lament but ends with praise.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+22

From the earliest times, Christians believed that the Psalm prophesies Christ's suffering, death, and Resurrection. What's interesting is that no Jew at the time would have interpreted that as an expression of doubt.

[Safety]

I understand it, and I understand that it's a way to keep the church going. That's all that tithing is, it's revenue for the church. Which is fine, I understand that churches have operating expenses that they have to meet, and that contributions from the people is the way they meet those obligations. But don't tell me that the money goes to God. It doesn't.

Also, please do keep in mind that the cannon bible is actually a propaganda piece put together by Constantine at the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD.
There, they determined what was Cannon, and what was Heresy, while tithing happened in many religions, for the reasons stated above, Jesus never really talked about it. And come to think of it, I don't think that Jesus ever said to stop burning lambs on an altar (God loves him some BBQ!) So, seems to me that yall got about 1900 years worth of lamb sacrifice to make up for.

Of course, if we are really getting to the brass tax of the religion, we have to talk about transubstantiation. Ever take part in the holy sacrament? According to Christian belief systems, the cracker actually turns into the body of Christ, and the wine actually turns into the blood of Christ, so in all reality, Christianity is full of Cannibal Vampires.

But the church also serves another purpose historically and that was being a pillar of the community. It was a place for people to gather together and discuss the goings on in the community, which played a big part during the slavery years and after. Sadly, there are many church leaders who are frauds and are only in it for the money, which in turn gets all the attention in the media. Just like everything else in this world, only the bad gets reported. The church was also a place where charities and scholarships were once a big part of helping the community. As we as a society move more and more away from religion, we are also becoming more isolated with only social media being used to communicate, and we all know how narcissistic that can be.

[The Sage of Main Street]

Besides, didn't Jesus say, render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.

He said that because he was an agent of the Roman Empire assigned to turn the rebellious Jews into pacifists using decadent Greek philosophy.

[whatukno]

He said that because he was an agent of the Roman Empire assigned to turn the rebellious Jews into pacifists using decadent Greek philosophy.

Sure, sure, of course, that makes absolutely no $#@!ing sense whatsoever, but sure.