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Thread: Kentucky Same-Sex Couple Denied Marriage License for 3rd Time at Rowan County Clerk's

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatukno View Post
    Ok, so some psycho stalker chick wants YOU to be her husband, picks up a form writes in your name, BAM, your married. Oh good call!
    Anyone can marry now- who cares?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Anyone can marry now- who cares?

    Anyone always could get married.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Anyone always could get married.
    Not in the interesting combinations that they can now! All is fair game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Not in the interesting combinations that they can now! All is fair game.
    Which interesting combination should we go for next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBlue View Post
    Kentucky Same-Sex Couple Denied Marriage License for 3rd Time at Rowan County Clerk's Office
    By AVIANNE TAN

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/kentucky-se...ry?id=33359467


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    This is truly despicable and outrageous that the County Clerk who was elected to serve ALL citizens is not doing so. Many have said that they feel this concerns a government worker's right to religious conviction while at the workplace. Several Federal Courts including the SCOTUS and an Appellate Court has ruled that she must serve the public and issue the same-sex marriage licenses. She continues to refuse. Apparently, this case is going to be sent to the SCOTUS for their ruling to see if such a thing actually exists to protect the worker's religious convictions over their assigned duties they were charged with carrying out. I believe the high court will find that it does not exist at the workplace, especially government offices where the citizenry who pay their taxes and the salary of County Clerks need to be served in a courteous, expeditious, and professional manner.

    Should they rule in favor of the clerk that would obviously set a dangerous precedent that certain people might not be served any longer if the person manning a certain office or station doesn't like them. That would no doubt cause many offices to close down due to lack of business, and elected officials booted out of their elected office for prejudice and discrimination based upon their own religious beliefs and convictions given that we are not ruled by a Theocracy in these United States. Thanks to ABC News for this report.
    I guess the EEOC needs to rewrite the *reasonable accommodation* in their
    religious discrimination laws.

    http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/religion.cfm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Anyone can marry now- who cares?
    Ya, might care if you aren't involved with the process, if someone marry's you without your consent. Which was what you were suggesting.
    Wukky logic, the most powerful weapon humanity has against Vulcans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    I guess the EEOC needs to rewrite the *reasonable accommodation* in their
    religious discrimination laws.

    http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/religion.cfm
    I believe they have it covered already in the following clause that many would certainly believe applies to governmental employees such as a County Clerk whose salary comes from the taxpayer and upon whom it is incumbent to perform their duties as assigned and not discriminate against the citizenry. This clause certainly says that the Clerk cannot excuse herself/himself from their duties and place someone else to do their work for them based upon their mere religious beliefs. Good clause that protects same-sex marriage partners! Thanks!

    Religious Discrimination & Reasonable Accommodation & Undue Hardship

    "An employer does not have to accommodate an employee's religious beliefs or practices if doing so would cause undue hardship to the employer. An accommodation may cause undue hardship if it is costly, compromises workplace safety, decreasesworkplace efficiency, infringes on the rights of other employees, or requires other employees to do more than their share of potentially hazardous or burdensome work."
    Let's see how much care and compassion Trump and Republicans show for their fellow Americans to truly help them out in their time of need.

    Let's start the count to see if Trump comes through on the many things he promised to do for Americans. If he doesn't, along with a Republican Congress, then what's his and their excuse?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBlue View Post
    I believe they have it covered already in the following clause that many would certainly believe applies to governmental employees such as a County Clerk whose salary comes from the taxpayer and upon whom it is incumbent to perform their duties as assigned and not discriminate against the citizenry. This clause certainly says that the Clerk cannot excuse herself/himself from their duties and place someone else to do their work for them based upon their mere religious beliefs. Good clause that protects same-sex marriage partners! Thanks!

    Religious Discrimination & Reasonable Accommodation & Undue Hardship

    "An employer does not have to accommodate an employee's religious beliefs or practices if doing so would cause undue hardship to the employer. An accommodation may cause undue hardship if it is costly, compromises workplace safety, decreasesworkplace efficiency, infringes on the rights of other employees, or requires other employees to do more than their share of potentially hazardous or burdensome work."
    You'd have a point if she was the only one in the clerks office that can issue the license. But she isn't so you don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatukno View Post
    Ya, might care if you aren't involved with the process, if someone marry's you without your consent. Which was what you were suggesting.
    It is all open now.

    Enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    You'd have a point if she was the only one in the clerks office that can issue the license. But she isn't so you don't.
    Yet you can't discount the fact that there are County Clerks, like the one in Kentucky, who have been reported to have ordered their staff to also not issue same-sex marriage licenses. Therefore, that well proves my point. And when that happens, the citizen is left out in the cold not being served by a public official and that should therefore be dereliction of duty.

    And further, what about those, like what I am saying just above about Clerks, who believe that just because they are County Clerks they can order their staff members to also not serve the public simply because they don't want to serve them due to personal prejudice? In doing so, they are dictating to their staff their own religious morals, views, and beliefs and are not allowing them to express their own which more than likely would be to issue the same-sex marriage licenses but they can't do that if the clerk, as their boss, tells them not to. In such case, the County Clerk should be removed from office for dereliction of duty by leaving certain citizens out in the cold without being served as they should be and have a right to be as tax-paying citizens.
    Let's see how much care and compassion Trump and Republicans show for their fellow Americans to truly help them out in their time of need.

    Let's start the count to see if Trump comes through on the many things he promised to do for Americans. If he doesn't, along with a Republican Congress, then what's his and their excuse?


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