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    Former German Leader Calls For a United States of Europe.....

    http://news.yahoo.com/former-german-...152550361.html

    BERLIN (Reuters) - Former German chancellor Gerhard Schroeder on Sunday called for the creation of a "United States of Europe," saying the bloc needed a common government to avoid future economic crises.

    "The current crisis makes it relentlessly clear that we cannot have a common currency zone without a common fiscal, economic and social policy," Schroeder said.

    He added: "We will have to give up national sovereignty."

    "From the European Commission, we should make a government which would be supervised by the European Parliament. And that means the United States of Europe.".....snip~

    "Say What".....maybe we just tell them to take a number as to what state they would like to be. 51 or 55. US of Europe my azz! >
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    Re: Former German Leader Calls For a United States of Europe.....

    A civilizational bloc of sorts is probably what is needed but the current form is a bad thing and I think many if not most europeans agree. Some kind of federal system with a great deal of regional autonomy is the best bet.
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    Re: Former German Leader Calls For a United States of Europe.....

    I am very sympathetic to the nationalism but I have become more open to the idea of a federal system. Granted, I'm not a resident of europe.
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    Re: Former German Leader Calls For a United States of Europe.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I am very sympathetic to the nationalism but I have become more open to the idea of a federal system. Granted, I'm not a resident of europe.
    Well I think someone better remind them.....THE $#@!ING NAME HAS BEEN TAKEN ALREADY. ;D

    Maybe they can call themselves the CONFEDERATION! >
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    Re: Former German Leader Calls For a United States of Europe.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Media Critic View Post
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    I am very sympathetic to the nationalism but I have become more open to the idea of a federal system. Granted, I'm not a resident of europe.
    Well I think someone better remind them.....THE $#@!ING NAME HAS BEEN TAKEN ALREADY. ;D

    Maybe they can call themselves the CONFEDERATION! >
    I think that's not actually the suggested name. It's just a description.
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    Re: Former German Leader Calls For a United States of Europe.....

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    I am very sympathetic to the nationalism but I have become more open to the idea of a federal system. Granted, I'm not a resident of europe.
    Well I think someone better remind them.....THE $#@!ING NAME HAS BEEN TAKEN ALREADY. ;D

    Maybe they can call themselves the CONFEDERATION! >
    I think that's not actually the suggested name. It's just a description.
    Well we don't need libs running around yelling out that $#@!. Plus you know how MSM is. Then new terminology and half these kids not knowing History. I say we let it be known now. >
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    Re: Former German Leader Calls For a United States of Europe.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Media Critic View Post
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    I am very sympathetic to the nationalism but I have become more open to the idea of a federal system. Granted, I'm not a resident of europe.
    Well I think someone better remind them.....THE $#@!ING NAME HAS BEEN TAKEN ALREADY. ;D

    Maybe they can call themselves the CONFEDERATION! >
    I think that's not actually the suggested name. It's just a description.
    Well we don't need libs running around yelling out that $#@!. Plus you know how MSM is. Then new terminology and half these kids not knowing History. I say we let it be known now. >
    With the current political and cultural establishment I don't think it's good for Western Civilization but with real leadership and real values it would be a good thing. It will probably remain the "European Union" but with major modifiocations.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Re: Former German Leader Calls For a United States of Europe.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
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    I am very sympathetic to the nationalism but I have become more open to the idea of a federal system. Granted, I'm not a resident of europe.
    Well I think someone better remind them.....THE $#@!ING NAME HAS BEEN TAKEN ALREADY. ;D

    Maybe they can call themselves the CONFEDERATION! >
    I think that's not actually the suggested name. It's just a description.
    Well we don't need libs running around yelling out that $#@!. Plus you know how MSM is. Then new terminology and half these kids not knowing History. I say we let it be known now. >
    With the current political and cultural establishment I don't think it's good for Western Civilization but with real leadership and real values it would be a good thing. It will probably remain the "European Union" but with major modifiocations.
    Well truthfully I think you are right.....they need to be centralized. I just don't see it happening anytime soon. Wonder how that would affect markets and then that question as to who is going to be the Wolrd's Reserve Currency.
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    Re: Former German Leader Calls For a United States of Europe.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Media Critic View Post
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    I am very sympathetic to the nationalism but I have become more open to the idea of a federal system. Granted, I'm not a resident of europe.
    Well I think someone better remind them.....THE $#@!ING NAME HAS BEEN TAKEN ALREADY. ;D

    Maybe they can call themselves the CONFEDERATION! >
    I think that's not actually the suggested name. It's just a description.
    Well we don't need libs running around yelling out that $#@!. Plus you know how MSM is. Then new terminology and half these kids not knowing History. I say we let it be known now. >
    With the current political and cultural establishment I don't think it's good for Western Civilization but with real leadership and real values it would be a good thing. It will probably remain the "European Union" but with major modifiocations.
    Well truthfully I think you are right.....they need to be centralized. I just don't see it happening anytime soon. Wonder how that would affect markets and then that question as to who is going to be the Wolrd's Reserve Currency.
    Economics and trade isn't my forte but it will take a fundamental change in leadership to get an E.U. I'd like to see.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Re: Former German Leader Calls For a United States of Europe.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Media Critic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I am very sympathetic to the nationalism but I have become more open to the idea of a federal system. Granted, I'm not a resident of europe.
    Well I think someone better remind them.....THE $#@!ING NAME HAS BEEN TAKEN ALREADY. ;D

    Maybe they can call themselves the CONFEDERATION! >


    Hilarious...

    On a serious note, given the EU's failures, is likely that more of a unification will lead to a better result?

    I also think it's naive to think you can bring so many varied people and cultures together under one government and expect them all to be loyal on their own. It's not quite the diversity of the former USSR but then they needed force to keep everyone in alignment. I just don't see it working for Europe.

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