Hey guys/Political Crowd Chart

[Peter1469]

I'm curious whether we'll have anyone in either of the top two quadrants. These forums strike me as right leaning, but I'm not sure whether it's the same way with social issues

http://www.politicalcompass.org/crow...c=2&newsoc=-.4

It isn't just social issues that will move you up on the Y axis. Any question where you agree more government is needed to solve whatever issue will push you up the Y axis.

[KC]

It isn't just social issues that will move you up on the Y axis. Any question where you agree more government is needed to solve whatever issue will push you up the Y axis.

Unless of course it's economics/whatever would require limitations on economic freedom.

[Peter1469]

Not sure what you mean. If there was a question about tariffs and you agreed with them you would move up on the Y axis. If you said you did not agree with them you would move down the Y axis.

[KC]

Doesn't the x axis deal with economic issues? for example, one who supports more regulation of businesses in order to protect the environment of consumers would fall on the left side of the chart.

[Chris]

I think the original Nolan Chart, from which the OP's link's derives, clarifies:

[Goldie Locks]

First, I have great respect for D'souza. His writings on religion are fantastic, and that's coming from someone who has long thought himself agnostic.

My reasons for thinking Obama is on my right, at the very least, are many and wide ranging. First off, there's the Trans Pacific Partnership, which may violate conservative ideas of sovereignty, but would be one of the most pro corporate treaties the US has entered. There's the essentially conservative, pro-business approach to health care reform (I would have preferred a Bismarck model), which is to the right of most post industrial democracies. There's the appointment of several former lobbyists and corporate execs to key positions in his administration, not to mention the appointment of Monsanto Public Policy VP Michael Taylor.

He's much more authoritarian, as well. He's allowed the US to use target drones, bomb the crap out of countries we disagree with and he's increased troops for Afghanistan. None of these things strike me as liberal, except the "exit" of Iraq, which was actually promised to happen in 2011 during the Bush administration. He never did shut down Gitmo, and his record on civil liberties is bad (N-D-A-A).

I'm not trying to rustle any feathers here, but I've never understood the right's charge that this president is on the far left. TARP is the only thing this administration has accomplished that seems really liberal, and even that is essentially pro corporate. He's surely not fiscally conservative, but then, show me a president in recent times who was (Clinton allowed himself to be pushed to the right, and was smart to do so).

Guess I'm in right field by myself as a Constitutional conservative I don't see anything you mentioned as being to the right. I often wonder if most of the left has actually read the Constitution...not read it through the eyes of liberal talking points but actually sat down and read it. It reads exactly as it should mean. There is no secret code. There are 18 enumerated powers that the federal government should do, we are so far away from that I don't think we'll ever get back.

You're right about the Authoritarian though, that I would agree with, he'd love to be dictator of America instead of President.

[Goldie Locks]

I still find it hard to believe anyone would vote for Ubama...someone please tell me after 4 years of this fiasco why you would vote for him again? Also, why you would not vote for Romney.

[Peter1469]

Doesn't the x axis deal with economic issues? for example, one who supports more regulation of businesses in order to protect the environment of consumers would fall on the left side of the chart.

Yes, sorry, I was getting my models mixed up.

[Smartmouthwoman]

I am close to you. Just 3 boxes down.

I could tell you were a smart guy. *wink*

Wonder if Cigar will fall off the left side? Hope his wife lets him take the test... should be interesting.

[Goldie Locks]

I could tell you were a smart guy. *wink*

Wonder if Cigar will fall off the left side? Hope his wife lets him take the test... should be interesting.

He prolly wouldn't understand the questions unless they were all "Vote for Ubama".