Art structure.

[Brett Nortje]

A while ago on another forum, i speculated that someone who drew a great picture, yet with a horrible face was ashamed of their own face. this proved to me that there is a psychological factor to art. from this we can conclude that someone that likes their house will also draw nice houses, and so forth, of course - or at least not 'hold back.'

Now, how do we make this even more structured? if we were to say that confidence can grant the most inspired of pictures, we could also say that there are comfort zones in art, yes? if that is the case, then there must be some science to this whole art thing too!

There is a mathematical value for beauty, being 1:1.618, and there are also fractals. that ratio is for angles and dimensions, and the fractals are like repetitive patterns that fit together too, like hexagons - six sided shapes - making a glass window in some churches.

So, there is more to art than randomly producing works of note. if we were to add the maths factors to it, there is a correct way to draw, but, drawing freehand is hard to get these angles right. if we were to repetitively train our hands with stencils, we could easily make these angles a reality too. i am not talking about drawing the whole of the stencil out, i am talking about computer graphics and stencils to train for the angles in the case of painting, sculpting and free hand drawings.

So, what do you think forum? is this accurate? maybe @Gypsy who drew a great thing, with a computer i presume, can add to this with a comment at least?

[Brett Nortje]

Like beauty, there is sex appeal, and they are closely related. i was just cruising through facebook, and saw a picture of miley cyrus, and, damn is she sexy. this got me thinking, why is this skinny runt making me aroused while other more beautiful women only get a 'tingle?' this is quite a mystery.

If we were to think about it, it must be a perfect imperfection, yes? i mean, no ways is she perfect, but she 'comes together' nicely. maybe it is something close to another ratio, yes? maybe it comes down to body language - yes that must be it, body language.

So, how does everybody achieve 'sexy body language?' it must have to do with confidence.if you think about it, women claim that a confident man is sexy, and this ties in with the 'being attracted to people of strength' ideas i have. this is also why a baby will like their parents, because they see a strong person, and are wanting something to do with them, seeing them as useful, yes?

Now, to achieve good body language and sexiness you need to be confident, of course. to be this person people reach for, just, for a while, challenge yourself to do hard things. if you were to go bungee jumping, or, even just hit on all the women or men you know, bearing consequences that will not ruin you - i am not saying you should do drugs! - just maybe embarrass you... yes that is it! embarrass yourself on purpose and then you will relax seeing that it is not that bad, as, it is only fear of embarrassment that is holding you back from being confident. except when it comes to sports - confidence there is also gained by experience.

[Brett Nortje]

To truly be sexy is to stimulate emotions in others due to your own personal strengths, but, it is true that a weak person is not sexy? what is it to be sexy anyway?

If we were to look at the sex appeal of others, it is usually to do with composure too. the better they know what they look like, the more true to what they want the message to be that they give off, of course.

So, how do we 'create a message?' this can be done by observing others, or even watching television, or, sometimes just due to your own insights or opinions. i mean, if someone is tall, they are tall, if someone is short they are short, so, if something it beauty, it is just how beautiful it is in the eye of the beholder.

Yes, i am also saying that porn turns women on! they might deny this, but if they hormones at all, it is just a personal image factor that they are protecting, of course. i mean, it is what they think of themselves, their own morals, that tell how they react to anything that they consider someone else to like or not. if it were that some girl is pretty, it might just be to some stud's idea of being seen with her - let's say she is a nerd? - that turns them off?

So, you can be more confident by doing things that seem hard for a while, and, doing things that seem beneath you. the more you do things you find challenging, or, things you really want to do - due to you own image of yourself and what you would like your message to be - then you would become more comfortable in all situations. this is because you will see these things that cause you to fear to be nullified or easily thought of - they will not stress you out, yes?

Now, i think it also has to do with the demeanour you have that leads to sex appeal. i mean, every woman thinks more about being sexy than men, as, they rely on it for hormonal things like feeling secure. if a man makes a woman feel secure like trust wise, then they can get along easily. think of hearing that someone has achieved in class or at work; you want to be that person, we all do! the thing is, we are not, yet for a brief moment we forget all the issues and feel high, as we think of ourselves as being that person, excelling, leading and being strong.

[The Sage of Main Street]

A while ago on another forum, i speculated that someone who drew a great picture, yet with a horrible face was ashamed of their own face. this proved to me that there is a psychological factor to art. from this we can conclude that someone that likes their house will also draw nice houses, and so forth, of course - or at least not 'hold back.'

Now, how do we make this even more structured? if we were to say that confidence can grant the most inspired of pictures, we could also say that there are comfort zones in art, yes? if that is the case, then there must be some science to this whole art thing too!

There is a mathematical value for beauty, being 1:1.618, and there are also fractals. that ratio is for angles and dimensions, and the fractals are like repetitive patterns that fit together too, like hexagons - six sided shapes - making a glass window in some churches.

So, there is more to art than randomly producing works of note. if we were to add the maths factors to it, there is a correct way to draw, but, drawing freehand is hard to get these angles right. if we were to repetitively train our hands with stencils, we could easily make these angles a reality too. i am not talking about drawing the whole of the stencil out, i am talking about computer graphics and stencils to train for the angles in the case of painting, sculpting and free hand drawings.

So, what do you think forum? is this accurate? maybe @Gypsy who drew a great thing, with a computer i presume, can add to this with a comment at least?

Picasso's gross distortion of the human form shows how much he hated his fellow humans. I get no feeling of sorrow and tragedy from viewing a freakshow like his Guernica. From the same perspective, El Greco gives me the creeps.

[Common Sense]

Picasso's gross distortion of the human form shows how much he hated his fellow humans. I get no feeling of sorrow and tragedy from viewing a freakshow like his Guernica. From the same perspective, El Greco gives me the creeps.

I don't care for a lot of Picasso's work, but I don't think he hated humans, I think he just liked abstract deconstructions.

Guernica is one of his few works I actually like.

[Brett Nortje]

If we want to look at art as a means of communication, as all languages start as an 'art,' then we need to observe this stupid thing everybody has gotten into - "what is the message" of the piece? does every bit of art have to have a message? i remember watching some people dancing and they said the dance had a message, and, i mean, it was so 'mainstream' that they may as well not have had a 'message.'

If you want your piece to have a message, as sometimes it is just art, you need to observe the angles for the message - how can it be interpreted? is it just a piece of art, or, is it actually ground breaking? does it have a message, or is it akin to some child scribbling on the wall?

But you could say that all art has a message, if you really want to. i mean, if some kid scribbles on the wall, there are many messages; you might want to get them something else to do, or, you might think that the child is looking for toys or attention, yes?

Either way, the message of art can sometimes be good. i remember a artwork with our president jacob zuma 'with his pants down,' called "the spear." this is because he has so may wives. actually, all cartoons by political cartoonists have a message come to think of it. there are still a lot of kids out there though.

So, how do we fine tune the message? if you were to use logic, and common sense, you could make the message before you begin. this is all obvious, though, so i don't know why i am writing about it - maybe i am wasting your and my time?

But, if some dead beat comes to you talking about the message of his work, you don't have to listen to them talk about 'some message' they think it ought to have, okay?

[Brett Nortje]

If you want to make a beautiful art work, as a painting, it is a visual impression, or, something you see as a emotion, yes? if you were to look at the most famous art works, well, some of them are just popular for no reason other than they feature a lot in the writings and journals of others, of course.

So, how do you make something beautiful? first i would like to write about colours, as i think there is a way to even make the worst colours look good.

If you were to use a lot of red, a common colour defining strength, we need to look around t see what else is red, yes? if we were to find roses and blood, we would see red implies thorns and injury, thus far. of course, if we were to look at red in another way, it also appeals to sex. this constant can be backed up with hard evidence, from mood rings no less.

Black- Tense, Nervous, Harassed, Overworked
Gray- Anxieties, Nervous, Strained
Amber- Nervous, Emotions Mixed, Unsettled, Cool
Green- Average Reading, Active, Not Under Great Stress
Blue-Green- Inner Emotions Charged, Somewhat Relaxed
Blue- Relaxed, At Ease, Calm, Lovable
Dark Blue- Very Happy, Love, Passion, Romance

Odd Colors:

White- Frustrated, Confused, Bored
Bronze- Jitters, Anticipation, Restless Thoughts
Pinkish- Fear, Uncertain, Unanswered Questions
Yellow- Imaginative, Wondering Thoughts, OK Feeling
Orange- Stimulating Ideas, Daring Wants
Red- Excited, Energized, Adventurous, Ready To Go
Purple- Sensual, Clarity, Purpose Is Known

These colours come up on the mood ring when we feel that way, so, it is logical to assume that they make us feel this way too.

[Brett Nortje]

I was side tracked in the last post, but now am back at beauty. if you were to observe that beauty is often in the eye of the beholder, well, even i truly understand this. i used to like girls with big bums because the ones with big boobs all had boyfriends. this meant, the beauty i was beholding was second best, so, there is no beauty in the eye of the beholder really.

But, that is not evidence enough, is it? well, if you were to look at sport's cars, some horrible cars like the diablo have a huge price tag, and, they are really ugly. i think everyone finds them ugly, because, there is a formula for beauty, being spoken of earlier.

Sometimes beauty lies in imperfection. if you were to find something imperfect beautiful, then you would be taking the 'beholder way' of it. this is also like food, which only has one nice taste, and everybody tires to be different.

So, beauty is where you see yourself, or, you might find beauty in the price of something. it is not all the product or image itself - it often comes to availability. haven't you heard people gloat about how cheap they are to satisfy?

If the price and availability can influence the way we approach things, we should consider marketing as the related pseudo science of beauty and decadence.

[Peter1469]

I prefer pictures.

[Captain Obvious]

I don't care for a lot of Picasso's work, but I don't think he hated humans, I think he just liked abstract deconstructions.

Guernica is one of his few works I actually like.