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    America: What it really is

    There are essentially two (diametrically opposed) views of America. They are as follows:

    View #1: American Exceptionalism. This is the view that America is the one (and only) truly indispensable country--the one nation on which the rest of the free world ultimately depends.

    View #2: This is the view (held principally by the left) that America is more bad than it is good. Sure, it has done some positive things in the world--even if only by accident--but its global "footprint" has been much more negative than it has been positive.

    It is very difficult--no, impossible--to just split the difference between these two opposing views. Either America is basically very good, with a few flaws; or it is basically very bad, with a few positive points.

    With which view do you feel more comfortable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    There are essentially two (diametrically opposed) views of America. They are as follows:

    View #1: American Exceptionalism. This is the view that America is the one (and only) truly indispensable country--the one nation on which the rest of the free world ultimately depends.

    View #2: This is the view (held principally by the left) that America is more bad than it is good. Sure, it has done some positive things in the world--even if only by accident--but its global "footprint" has been much more negative than it has been positive.

    It is very difficult--no, impossible--to just split the difference between these two opposing views. Either America is basically very good, with a few flaws; or it is basically very bad, with a few positive points.

    With which view do you feel more comfortable?
    Our government is somewhere between dysfunctional and non-functional. They clearly have more problems than solutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Our government is somewhere between dysfunctional and non-functional. They clearly have more problems than solutions.
    Is that just your way of saying that you feel more comfortable with View #2 than with View #1?

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    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
    - Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    There are essentially two (diametrically opposed) views of America. They are as follows:

    View #1: American Exceptionalism. This is the view that America is the one (and only) truly indispensable country--the one nation on which the rest of the free world ultimately depends.

    View #2: This is the view (held principally by the left) that America is more bad than it is good. Sure, it has done some positive things in the world--even if only by accident--but its global "footprint" has been much more negative than it has been positive.

    It is very difficult--no, impossible--to just split the difference between these two opposing views. Either America is basically very good, with a few flaws; or it is basically very bad, with a few positive points.

    With which view do you feel more comfortable?
    None of the above

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Our government is somewhere between dysfunctional and non-functional. They clearly have more problems than solutions.
    You have the government you deserve.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    My view of America is its my country, I was born here and lived my entire life here. I think america is a damn good place to live and ive never seen nor heard of any place better
    LETS GO BRANDON
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    Is that just your way of saying that you feel more comfortable with View #2 than with View #1?

    No, it's my way of saying that the two views don't quite capture how people really feel .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    You have the government you deserve.
    No, I have the government you donkephant supporters deserve

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    No, I have the government you donkephant supporters deserve
    I know you will never link your radical individualism with state encroachment into all facets of our lives but thanks for that.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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