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    “A 'civilization' that makes such a ridiculous fuss about alleged 'war crimes' - acts of violence against the actual or potential enemies of one's cause - and tolerates slaughterhouses and vivisection laboratories, and circuses and the fur industry (infliction of pain upon creatures that can never be for or against any cause), does not deserve to live.”
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    Savitri, the kind of sophistry you displayed here only makes the OP more poignant.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I agree. Problem is, as I pointed out earlier, like any other socialist system it adopts and promotes as its main tenant central planning, and central planning is by its very nature about control.
    And control of the means of production by the bourgeoisie isn't organization? Or the fact we have to develop a currency (centrally)? But I'm sure in your infinite wisdom you didn't overlook such things!

    More obfuscation. Remember, you first claimed
    Ad hom is like waving a white flag you have no further argument to make.
    As I have said, point out that your reading comprehension skills, when they are causing this debate to come to a stand-still is an observation. If you want to call your lack of reading ability ad hominem, whatever helps you sleep at night...



    No, not what I said at all. I said describing nature and ideologies as agents or with human attributes is anthropomorphizing. You're creating metaphors for and then believing your own metaphors. That's dangerous.
    So how else would you describe external factors that FORCE you do do things?

    Now that's some argument! Remember, you first claimed capitalism coerced us to do those things. Now you agree it's just nature, human nature. Thanks you.
    Capitalists force us to do things. Nature forces us to do things. Dictators force us to do things. Remember when I said I didn't believe in freedom? (Probably not)...




    All this ad hom is just you
    Reading comprehensions skills are still lacking on your part, are they not?





    Communism depends on central planning which is coercive.
    Capitalism depends on control of capital by the bourgeoisie which is coercive. See what I did there?



    That's not hierarchical. Besides, you're now describing feudalism, not capitalism. Free market capitalism is the social institution that emerges from the voluntary exchange of goods and services among individuals.
    No that's Marx's definition of capitalism. But I'll go by your definition. What is your definition of capitalism, this way there can be no more equivocation.

    Ad hom is attacking the messenger, not the message. My comment was about your message, your message consisted of an idea typical of a teenager's view of things, freedom from responsibility. Freedom is a responsibility.
    Freedom doesn't exist. And you have yet to prove it does.
    “A 'civilization' that makes such a ridiculous fuss about alleged 'war crimes' - acts of violence against the actual or potential enemies of one's cause - and tolerates slaughterhouses and vivisection laboratories, and circuses and the fur industry (infliction of pain upon creatures that can never be for or against any cause), does not deserve to live.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    In what way? Do you know? lol
    He opposes everything. He doesn't seem to stand for anything concrete. But I feel that way of all middle-ground beliefs. They are hypocritical and arbitrary.

    Again, the US and other liberal democracies do not line up their citizens for slaughter. In fact, only communist regimes have had that dubious distinction.
    Last I checked the US is almost constantly engaging in warfare. I cannot recall the last time they were not engaged in a war. At least one every decade...

    First you tossed a red herring about capitalism into the fray to avoid an answer. When that was dismissed you claimed you don't believe in right and wrong. Spoken like a true sociopath. No wonder you find totalitariansim so appealing.
    No, I have answered. You refuse to listen/read. I never said I didn't believe in right and wrong. I said good and evil I don't believe in. But again, more strawmen from the master!

    What Marx envisioned is irrelevant. The slaughters occured and were a direct consequence of Marx's ideas put into action. In any case, we're off topic. The end result (i.e. communist society) is assumed in Marx's work. There is no practical guide on how it is to be achieved. Historically, we know tens of millions of human beings were murdered to make it happen. Yeah, I'd want to disown that too but thankfully I'm not a communist. So we agree that Marx left no blueprint for achievignm his classless Utopia. Good.
    What Adam Smith envisioned is irrelevant. Corporations rule the government through lobbyists dictating where we live, what we eat, how we eat, what taxes we are forced to pay, etc. The wars caused by arms dealers because there's profit in warfare. This are ALL a direct result of the evils of capitalism! (At least by your double standard you refuse to acknowledge).

    Apparently, we now agree. Marx left no guide on how his Utopia was to be achieved.
    No, it was through the transitory state of socialism. I thought I said that earlier. reading comprehension skills lacking again?

    Do you know what "mortal fear" is? It means you are afraid of being killed. You may very well feel that you are not free but your government does not seek your elimination.
    I am more afraid of forceful imprisonment. I think keeping someone confined their entire life is a greater fear than that of death.
    “A 'civilization' that makes such a ridiculous fuss about alleged 'war crimes' - acts of violence against the actual or potential enemies of one's cause - and tolerates slaughterhouses and vivisection laboratories, and circuses and the fur industry (infliction of pain upon creatures that can never be for or against any cause), does not deserve to live.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savitri Devi View Post
    He opposes everything. He doesn't seem to stand for anything concrete. But I feel that way of all middle-ground beliefs. They are hypocritical and arbitrary.
    That's funny. Neither do you. But, no, he does not oppose eberything, That's silly. He opposes liberalism.


    Last I checked the US is almost constantly engaging in warfare. I cannot recall the last time they were not engaged in a war. At least one every decade...
    You like red herrings, huh?

    No, I have answered. You refuse to listen/read. I never said I didn't believe in right and wrong. I said good and evil I don't believe in. But again, more strawmen from the master!
    Yeah, I know. You don't believe in right and wrong but you think it's wrong to mistreat animals. Cognitive dissonance?

    What Adam Smith envisioned is irrelevant. Corporations rule the government through lobbyists dictating where we live, what we eat, how we eat, what taxes we are forced to pay, etc. The wars caused by arms dealers because there's profit in warfare. This are ALL a direct result of the evils of capitalism! (At least by your double standard you refuse to acknowledge).

    Yes, what Adam Smith envisioned is irrelevant since we aren't talking about Adam Smith or capitalism.


    No, it was through the transitory state of socialism. I thought I said that earlier. reading comprehension skills lacking again?
    That's not a practical guide, sweetie. Well...uh...first you have socialism and then you have communism. OK...everyone understand now? Let's get to work.

    I am more afraid of forceful imprisonment. I think keeping someone confined their entire life is a greater fear than that of death.
    Let us know when the government goons show up.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Savitri Devi View Post
    And control of the means of production by the bourgeoisie isn't organization? Or the fact we have to develop a currency (centrally)? But I'm sure in your infinite wisdom you didn't overlook such things!



    As I have said, point out that your reading comprehension skills, when they are causing this debate to come to a stand-still is an observation. If you want to call your lack of reading ability ad hominem, whatever helps you sleep at night...





    So how else would you describe external factors that FORCE you do do things?



    Capitalists force us to do things. Nature forces us to do things. Dictators force us to do things. Remember when I said I didn't believe in freedom? (Probably not)...






    Reading comprehensions skills are still lacking on your part, are they not?







    Capitalism depends on control of capital by the bourgeoisie which is coercive. See what I did there?





    No that's Marx's definition of capitalism. But I'll go by your definition. What is your definition of capitalism, this way there can be no more equivocation.



    Freedom doesn't exist. And you have yet to prove it does.
    Why do you continue to wave the white flag of ad hom?

    bourgeoisie? No such thing. We all own our bodies. Are we all bourgeoisie?

    I've defined capitalism numerous times. It is the social institution that emerges from the voluntary exchange of goods and services among individuals.

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    Nazi-ism and Communism are essentially the same and come from the same source, the Talmud.

    At any rate, they are both rackets run by the super-rich to control the peasants.

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    Nazi-ism and Communism are essentially the same and come from the same source, the Talmud.
    Explain, please.

    At any rate, they are both rackets run by the super-rich to control the peasants.
    They're both the failed products of socialism.

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    He might mean that all of these modern ideologies have their origins in modernity's residual Christianity but he didn't put it well.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Explain, please.

    Nazi-ism and Communism are essentially the same and come from the same source, the Talmud.

    At any rate, they are both rackets run by the super-rich to control the peasants.
    They're both the failed products of socialism.
    Socialism, Communism, Nazi-ism, Democracy are all different fingers of the same hand.

    From the stand point of the super-rich, these isms are a great success. Look at all the wars fought over this garbage, and all the fantastic profits accurring to the people who manipulate the nations to war.

    You don't seen the Talmud in all those isms?

    They are all based on some elite controlling the goyim and ripping them off under one pretext or another.

    They were all created to end the various kingdoms of Christendom and put everyone under more perfect control.

    Here in America we have a very unique form of Communism, we call it Capitalism.

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