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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan88 View Post
    Socialism, Communism, Nazi-ism, Democracy are all different fingers of the same hand.

    From the stand point of the super-rich, these isms are a great success. Look at all the wars fought over this garbage, and all the fantastic profits accurring to the people who manipulate the nations to war.

    You don't seen the Talmud in all those isms?

    They are all based on some elite controlling the goyim and ripping them off under one pretext or another.

    They were all created to end the various kingdoms of Christendom and put everyone under more perfect control.

    Here in America we have a very unique form of Communism, we call it Capitalism.
    You don't seen the Talmud in all those isms?
    Uh, no, that's why I asked you to explain. Would you?

    Here in America we have a very unique form of Communism, we call it Capitalism.
    Oh. ok, I guess I don't expect a rational answer then.

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    He could be referring the Marx's historical / political cycle where capitalism morphs into communism over time as the workers unite against the man.

    But I doubt it.

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    Ah, the Hegaelian dialectic! Yeah, doubt it.

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    OK, First, the Talmud is a written collection of the traditions of the elders of Judah & Esau/Amalaek.

    Christ characterized it as the doctrines that make the Word of God of none effect.

    It is about a certain class of people who seek to control all of mankind as was happening in Judea in the time of Christ.

    It is based on the jealousy of Judah against Joseph, and Esau against Jacob over the Birthright. The Talmud is based on this jealousy and the way to secure it against what they call the Goyim.

    Communism, Fascism, Socialism, & Democracy are in essence based on a small elite controlling everything while giving the peasants the image of having some power & some benefits.

    These isms, are based on the same doctrines that the Pharisees held at the time of Christ.

    If you watch the video The Prophet Joseph, produced in Iran for Iranian TV, you will see how vicious the jealousy was, and how the same treachery was in the priests of Amon. You will see the nature of the doctrines of the elders. Joseph overcame it all.

    http://www.shiatv.net/view_video.php...dc3ef156762cec

    In Pharsi with English subtitles.

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    Communism, Fascism, Socialism, & Democracy are in essence based on a small elite controlling everything while giving the peasants the image of having some power & some benefits.
    Wow.

    What is your alternative?

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    Communism, Fascism, Socialism, & Democracy are in essence based on a small elite controlling everything while giving the peasants the image of having some power & some benefits.
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Wow.

    What is your alternative?
    Elites will always exert considerable control. And, as long as Americans are in love with our version of Communism, the Elites will remain in control.

    But, if enough Americans will confess our national sins, repent, and accept the punishments of our iniquities, we can gradually remove all 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto from America, remove democracy, and return America to what it attempted to do in 1774.

    In 1774, Some Americans declared that they had never consented to be governed.

    This means that they were attempting to return to the way things were before Israel consented to having a king rule over them. Previous to that, the Men chose the judges, and had control of their families and tribes. And, of course, it is all in vain if those "Men" are not following "nature and nature's God" as specified in the Declaration of Independence.

    And we have not been doing that since we tolerated the assassination of the Shay Regulators of Massachusetts. We weren't following it when we did the revolution thing, either.

    When we violate our national Mandate to pursue Peace and accomplish it in Truth, Mercy and Faith, then the Curses of the Law come upon us, and as Moses said, "Those who hate you shall rule over you." Lev. 26:17

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan88 View Post
    OK, First, the Talmud is a written collection of the traditions of the elders of Judah & Esau/Amalaek.

    Christ characterized it as the doctrines that make the Word of God of none effect.

    It is about a certain class of people who seek to control all of mankind as was happening in Judea in the time of Christ.

    It is based on the jealousy of Judah against Joseph, and Esau against Jacob over the Birthright. The Talmud is based on this jealousy and the way to secure it against what they call the Goyim.

    Communism, Fascism, Socialism, & Democracy are in essence based on a small elite controlling everything while giving the peasants the image of having some power & some benefits.

    These isms, are based on the same doctrines that the Pharisees held at the time of Christ.

    If you watch the video The Prophet Joseph, produced in Iran for Iranian TV, you will see how vicious the jealousy was, and how the same treachery was in the priests of Amon. You will see the nature of the doctrines of the elders. Joseph overcame it all.

    ....
    Two problems with this.

    One, what you say is true of most every early civilization I'm aware of. It is, interestingly, as an aside to your aside on the OP, what http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_de_Benoist indicates Benoist wants to return to:
    ... he argues that Europe must return to its pre-Christian roots and uses the Indo-European model, such as Nordic, Celtic, Greek and Roman civilisations,[11] as an alternative to communism and capitalism.[1] "We want to substitute faith for law, mythos for logos... will for pure reason, the image for the concept, and home for exile," he once wrote.[12]...

    [1] A big splash from France's new wave from the right The Economist 14 July 1979
    [11] France's new right in search of old European roots The Economist 1 September 1979
    [12] Russia's bad dream;Zhirinovsky's fascism is not an isolated phenomenon The Boston Globe 19 December 1993

    But to return to your claim, problem two, the Jews were the first to subject their kings to the same laws as its people. This directly contradicts your claim of "a small elite controlling everything".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Two problems with this.

    One, what you say is true of most every early civilization I'm aware of. It is, interestingly, as an aside to your aside on the OP, what http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_de_Benoist indicates Benoist wants to return to:


    But to return to your claim, problem two, the Jews were the first to subject their kings to the same laws as its people. This directly contradicts your claim of "a small elite controlling everything".
    We are not talking about all civilizations, we are talking about the American civilizaiton, which is not very civilized.

    If you recognize that elites control America, why buy into their various schemes, democracy, socialism etc.? Especially since they never deliver the following:

    That a Man is king of his castle, and free from taxation, threats and interferrences.


    The Talmud or doctrines of the Pharisees make the Word of God of none effect. That means murder, covetousness and theft are all legal for someone.

    Don't know what "Jews" you are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan88 View Post
    We are not talking about all civilizations, we are talking about the American civilizaiton, which is not very civilized.

    If you recognize that elites control America, why buy into their various schemes, democracy, socialism etc.? Especially since they never deliver the following:

    That a Man is king of his castle, and free from taxation, threats and interferrences.


    The Talmud or doctrines of the Pharisees make the Word of God of none effect. That means murder, covetousness and theft are all legal for someone.

    Don't know what "Jews" you are talking about.
    We are not talking about all civilizations, we are talking about the American civilizaiton, which is not very civilized.
    I'd asked you about the Talamud. Are you saying you were deflecting from supporting your claim about that again?

    What you said was true of all early civilizations I've heard of.

    Your post didn't even mention the US.

    Strike one.



    If you recognize that elites control America, why buy into their various schemes, democracy, socialism etc.?
    Uh, I don't. I'm an anarchocapitalist, minarchist in practice.

    Strike two.



    Don't know what "Jews" you are talking about.
    The Jews you're making things up about.

    Strike three.

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    Ivan, since I asked you to support your claim that
    Nazi-ism and Communism are essentially the same and come from the same source, the Talmud.
    I should support mine that
    the Jews were the first to subject their kings to the same laws as its people.
    Here:

    Deuteronomy 17:16-20

    16 But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the Lord hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
    17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.
    18 And it shall be, when he sitteth upon the throne of his kingdom, that he shall write him a copy of this law in a book out of that which is before the priests the Levites:
    19 And it shall be with him, and he shall read therein all the days of his life: that he may learn to fear the Lord his God, to keep all the words of this law and these statutes, to do them:
    20 That his heart be not lifted up above his brethren, and that he turn not aside from the commandment, to the right hand, or to the left: to the end that he may prolong his days in his kingdom, he, and his children, in the midst of Israel.

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