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    Islamic Scholar Declares Native American Tribal People Convert or Die

    In this video, an Islamic Scholar describes to a foreign journalist what plans Islam has for Americans, particularly for those who are defined by their perception of Polytheism, which would include almost all Native American Tribal People who practice pre-colonial-non-Christian beliefs.



    ConvertOrDie.jpg

    Essentially, if you are a "Person of the Book", in other words, a Christian (of any sect, including Catholic or Mormon), or Jewish, you will be given three choice, Convert to Islam, Pay the Jizya Tax on Infidels, or Die.

    Anyone who is not a Christian or a Jew, i.e. any Polytheist, will be given only TWO Choices, Convert to Islam, or Die.

    The totality of Immigration and Naturalization Law is large and complex, but there are quite a number of provisions within those laws which make it not only legal, but mandatory, to prevent the immigration of any person or group who:

    1] openly states plans to use violence against American Citizens
    2] advocates the over throw of its Constitutional Government,
    3] advocates denying American Citizens of their Bill of Rights freedoms and rights.

    This Muslim Scholar, shown in the Video Above, does not speak for ALL Muslims, either those already in the U.S. or many abroad who seek to enter the U.S.A, but he does hold an opinion and viewpoint common to MOST Muslims world wide.

    Studies have shown that over 50% of U.S. Muslims support the implementation of Sharia Law and the Jizya Tax on Non-Muslims.
    http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/t...-about-sharia/

    Other Studies have shown that a majority of Muslims, including those labeled as "Syrian Refugees", support using violence against non-Muslims to force conversion or eliminate non-Muslims.
    https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy....shariah-jihad/

    The above outlined discrimination reduced to "Convert or Die!" to Polytheists would including many Americans of other faiths:
    Native American Tribal People, Wiccans, Hindus, Buddhists, Shintoist, Taoists, Sererist, and other Pagans.

    The total number of Polytheist Americans is not a number easily found, but a reasonable estimate is around 12 Million People.

    It is unclear whether the Muslims would apply the "Convert or Die!" edict to Atheists.

    Given that our Constitution and Bill of Rights clearly gives American Citizens the right to Freedom of Religion!

    and the fact that Muslims who follow the practices and beliefs outlined in the above video, and the studies linked above, would deny those rights to Polytheist Religions, and/or kill them, we are legally REQUIRED to prevent them from entering the United States.

    It is not an option, it is the LAW that people who would deny other American's Religious Freedom should be denied entry, and those already here be deported!

    Why are we not enforcing this very important law?!

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    We are living in sad times.

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    This excellent post has been repped.

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    Now if only athiests and polytheists could actually comprehend that THIS is Islam and not some idealistic version they concoct in their heads, we all would have a very merry Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    ...and the fact that Muslims who follow the practices and beliefs outlined in the above video, and the studies linked above, would deny those rights to Polytheist Religions, and/or kill them, we are legally REQUIRED to prevent them from entering the United States.

    It is not an option, it is the LAW that people who would deny other American's Religious Freedom should be denied entry, and those already here be deported!

    Why are we not enforcing this very important law?!-
    What law would that be?

    They are not actually breaking any law of which I am aware until they actually attempt to implement the policies that clown was suggesting. At that time, they should indeed be dealt with accordingly.

    With regard to what he plans for some Indians and others who may practice some form of Polytheism... A few scalps hanging over the entrance to the longhouse should deter that pretty quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    What law would that be?

    They are not actually breaking any law of which I am aware until they actually attempt to implement the policies that clown was suggesting. At that time, they should indeed be dealt with accordingly.

    With regard to what he plans for some Indians and others who may practice some form of Polytheism... A few scalps hanging over the entrance to the longhouse should deter that pretty quickly.
    http://tucnak.fsv.cuni.cz/~calda/Doc...Carran_52.html
    We are living in sad times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Now if only athiests and polytheists could actually comprehend that THIS is Islam and not some idealistic version they concoct in their heads, we all would have a very merry Christmas.
    I have a hard time with lumping all Muslims together just as I have a hard time lumping all Catholics or Buddhists or Liberals together, based strictly on some of the tenets of their respective religions. They are not all the same. They do not all interpret or practice their faiths in the same manner.

    This is just a small example of what I am talking about. I was stationed in a Middle Eastern rat hole for while, probably the most primitive country among the Arab states. I lived in a small villa and my household security staff consisted of Muslims from various countries. I had picked up a stray dog off the street (dogs have a terrible existence in this country) and adopted her, taken her to the only Veterinarian in the country (a staffer at the British Embassy), had her vaccinated to US standards and kept her within the walls of the villa. My Muslim guards weren't crazy about that idea. Dogs are considered unclean in Islam and contact with them is generally proscribed.

    One day, my villa was mortared and my dog was killed in the attack. One of my guards, as devout a Muslim as I have ever known, came walking out of the dust and smoke carrying her in his arms and brought her to me with tears in his eyes.

    To lump that man in with the clown in the video posted in this thread is absolutely absurd.

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    This is the relevant part of the law you cited.

    Except as otherwise provided in this Act, the following classes of aliens shall be ineligible to receive visas and shall be excluded from admission into the United States:
    (1) Aliens who are feeble-minded;
    (2) Aliens who are insane;
    (3) Aliens who have had one or more attacks of insanity;
    (4) Aliens afflicted with psychopathic personality, epilepsy, or a mental defect;
    (5) Aliens who are narcotic drug addicts or chronic alcoholics;
    (6) Aliens who are afflicted with tuberculosis in any form, or with leprosy, or any dangerous contagious disease;
    (7) Aliens not comprehended within any of the foregoing classes who are certified by the examining surgeon as having a physical defect, disease, or disability, when determined by the consular or immigration officer to be of such a nature that it may affect the ability of the alien to earn a living, unless the alien affirmatively establishes that he will not have to earn a living;
    (8) Aliens who are paupers, professional beggars, or vagrants;
    (9) Aliens who have been convicted of a crime involving moral turpitude (other than a purely political offense), or aliens who admit having committed such a crime, or aliens who admit committing acts which constitute the essential elements of such a crime; except that aliens who have committed only one such crime while under the age of eighteen years may be granted a visa and admitted if the crime was committed more than five years prior to the date of the application for a visa or other documentation, and more than five years prior to date of application for admission to the United States, unless the crime resulted confinement in a prison or correctional institution, in which case such alien must have been released from such confinement more than five years prior to the date of the application for a visa or other documentation, and for admission, to the United States;
    (10) Aliens who have been convicted of two or more offenses (other than purely political offenses), regardless of whether the conviction was in a single trial or whether the offenses arose from a single scheme of misconduct and regardless of whether the offenses involved moral turpitude, for which the aggregate sentences to confinement actually imposed were five years or more;
    (11) Aliens who are polygamists or who practice polygamy or advocate the practice of polygamy;
    (12) Aliens who are prostitutes or who have engaged in prostitution, or aliens coming to the United States solely, principally, or incidentally to engage in prostitution; aliens who directly or indirectly procure or attempt to procure, or who have procured or attempted to procure or to import, prostitutes or persons for the purpose of prostitution or for any other immoral purpose; and aliens who are or have been supported by, or receive or have received, in whole or in part, the proceeds of prostitution or aliens coming to the United States to engage in any other unlawful commercialized vice, whether or not related to prostitution;
    (13) Aliens coming to the United States to engage in any immoral sexual act;
    (14) Aliens seeking to enter the United States for the purpose of performing skilled or unskilled labor, if the Secretary of Labor has determined and certified to the Secretary of State and to the Attorney General that (A) sufficient workers in the United States who are able, willing, and qualified are available at the time (of application for a visa and for admission to the United States) and place (to which the alien is destined) to perform such skilled or unskilled labor, or (B) the employment of such aliens will adversely affect the wages and working conditions of the workers in the United States similarly employed. The exclusion of aliens under this paragraph shall apply only to the following classes: (i) those aliens described in the nonpreference category of section 203 (a) (4), (ii) those aliens described in section 101 (a) (27) (C), (27) (D), or (27) (E) (other than the parents, spouses, or children of United States citizens or of aliens lawfully admitted to the United State for permanent residence), unless their services are determined by the Attorney General to be needed urgently in the United States because of the high education, technical training, specialized experience, or exceptional ability of such immigrants and to be substantially beneficial prospectively to the national economy, cultural interest or welfare of the United States;
    (15) Aliens who, in the opinion of the consular officer at the time of application for a visa, or in the opinion of the Attorney General at the time of application for admission, are likely at any time to become public charges;
    (16) Aliens who have been excluded from admission and deported and who again seek admission within one year from the date of such deportation, unless prior to their reembarkation at a place outside the United States or their attempt to be admitted from foreign contiguous territory the Attorney General has consented to their reapplying for admission;
    (17) Aliens who have been arrested and deported, or who have fallen into distress and have been removed pursuant to this or any prior act, or who have been removed as alien enemies, or who have been removed at Government expense in lieu of deportation pursuant to section 242 (b), unless prior to their embarkation or reembarkation at a place outside the United States or their attempt to be admitted from foreign contiguous territory the Attorney General has consented to their applying or reapplying for admission;
    (18) Aliens who are stowaways;
    (19) Any alien who seeks to procure, or has sought to procure, or has procured a visa or other documentation, or seeks to enter the United States, by fraud, or by willfully misrepresenting a material fact;
    (20) Except as otherwise specifically provided in this Act, any immigrant who at the time of application for admission is not in possession of a valid unexpired immigrant visa, reentry permit, border crossing identification card, or other valid entry document required by this Act, and a valid unexpired passport, or other suitable travel document, or document of identity and nationality, if such document

    I am not seeing it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    In this video, an Islamic Scholar describes to a foreign journalist what plans Islam has for Americans, particularly for those who are defined by their perception of Polytheism, which would include almost all Native American Tribal People who practice pre-colonial-non-Christian beliefs.



    Attachment 13694

    Essentially, if you are a "Person of the Book", in other words, a Christian (of any sect, including Catholic or Mormon), or Jewish, you will be given three choice, Convert to Islam, Pay the Jizya Tax on Infidels, or Die.

    Anyone who is not a Christian or a Jew, i.e. any Polytheist, will be given only TWO Choices, Convert to Islam, or Die.

    The totality of Immigration and Naturalization Law is large and complex, but there are quite a number of provisions within those laws which make it not only legal, but mandatory, to prevent the immigration of any person or group who:

    1] openly states plans to use violence against American Citizens
    2] advocates the over throw of its Constitutional Government,
    3] advocates denying American Citizens of their Bill of Rights freedoms and rights.

    This Muslim Scholar, shown in the Video Above, does not speak for ALL Muslims, either those already in the U.S. or many abroad who seek to enter the U.S.A, but he does hold an opinion and viewpoint common to MOST Muslims world wide.

    Studies have shown that over 50% of U.S. Muslims support the implementation of Sharia Law and the Jizya Tax on Non-Muslims.
    http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/t...-about-sharia/

    Other Studies have shown that a majority of Muslims, including those labeled as "Syrian Refugees", support using violence against non-Muslims to force conversion or eliminate non-Muslims.
    https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy....shariah-jihad/

    The above outlined discrimination reduced to "Convert or Die!" to Polytheists would including many Americans of other faiths:
    Native American Tribal People, Wiccans, Hindus, Buddhists, Shintoist, Taoists, Sererist, and other Pagans.

    The total number of Polytheist Americans is not a number easily found, but a reasonable estimate is around 12 Million People.

    It is unclear whether the Muslims would apply the "Convert or Die!" edict to Atheists.

    Given that our Constitution and Bill of Rights clearly gives American Citizens the right to Freedom of Religion!

    and the fact that Muslims who follow the practices and beliefs outlined in the above video, and the studies linked above, would deny those rights to Polytheist Religions, and/or kill them, we are legally REQUIRED to prevent them from entering the United States.

    It is not an option, it is the LAW that people who would deny other American's Religious Freedom should be denied entry, and those already here be deported!

    Why are we not enforcing this very important law?!

    -

    The correct PC term should be "we were here first" because ain't no body native here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    I have a hard time with lumping all Muslims together just as I have a hard time lumping all Catholics or Buddhists or Liberals together, based strictly on some of the tenets of their respective religions. They are not all the same. They do not all interpret or practice their faiths in the same manner.

    This is just a small example of what I am talking about. I was stationed in a Middle Eastern rat hole for while, probably the most primitive country among the Arab states. I lived in a small villa and my household security staff consisted of Muslims from various countries. I had picked up a stray dog off the street (dogs have a terrible existence in this country) and adopted her, taken her to the only Veterinarian in the country (a staffer at the British Embassy), had her vaccinated to US standards and kept her within the walls of the villa. My Muslim guards weren't crazy about that idea. Dogs are considered unclean in Islam and contact with them is generally proscribed.

    One day, my villa was mortared and my dog was killed in the attack. One of my guards, as devout a Muslim as I have ever known, came walking out of the dust and smoke carrying her in his arms and brought her to me with tears in his eyes.

    To lump that man in with the clown in the video posted in this thread is absolutely absurd.
    It sounds like you have had some damned interesting and first hand experiences in the ME.

    But to trivialize the Imam as a clown who doesn't speak for most Muslims is a foolish and very dangerous thing to do.

    We Westerners are really good at projecting our own morality onto everyone else and pretending that these people cannot possibly mean what they say. The irony is that you, and others, are still doing it even after 9-11.

    These Imams speak to the literal meaning of the Koran and preach it to millions throughout the world that this is Gods word. To trivialize it using our Western values is very dumb. To believe that Muslims don't take those words to heart ignorant.

    It is the same irony watching the MSM wring their hands in desperation trying to comprehend what could have motivated a man and his wife supposedly living the American dream to murder 14 unknowing innocent people attending a holiday party. All they, and you, have to do is open their tightly closed eyes and ears, and see what is being said in this video and many others like it, and comprehend that these people really do mean what they are saying and believe it with all their hearts.

    WE, our values, are not the problem; THEY, their values, are.

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    I am not arguing that fundamentalist Muslims do not pose a very real threat to those who don't share their faith. What I am saying is that not all Muslims share their attitude.

    Those who post a threat need to be treated as the enemies they are. Once identified, do whatever is necessary to neutralize the threat they pose. However, Achmed, the grocer who lives down the street and faces Mecca and prays five times a day and attends Mosque and is a devout Muslim may want nothing more than to provide for his family, be a good neighbor and enjoy the same freedoms, including the freedom to practice the religion of his choice, that all Americans rightfully possess.

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