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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I know what you mean and I think you're right. For example, Marx just assumes the the transition to a socialist economy instead of trying to formulate a process whereby that could actually happen.
    Right, which leaves people like Lenin and Mao to make it up as they go along. And we see how that turned out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Right, which leaves people like Lenin and Mao to make it up as they go along. And we see how that turned out.
    Exactly.
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    This thread took off. Good. Work has been busy but I'll see what follow ups there are here tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I know what you mean and I think you're right. For example, Marx just assumes the the transition to a socialist economy instead of trying to formulate a process whereby that could actually happen.
    Actually Marx grew impatient and left the ranks of libertarian anarchists for authoritarianism with the Coomunist Manifesto specifying "socialism" or the dictatorship of the proletariate as the transition.

    (Of course no authoritarian rad leads to anarchy.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Actually Marx grew impatient and left the ranks of libertarian anarchists for authoritarianism with the Coomunist Manifesto specifying "socialism" or the dictatorship of the proletariate as the transition.

    (Of course no authoritarian rad leads to anarchy.)
    As far as I know there is no blueprint, so to speak, in Marx's work outlining how such a society can be accomplished. I could be wrong. Teh call for revolution is one thing. A functioning order quite another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    As far as I know there is no blueprint, so to speak, in Marx's work outlining how such a society can be accomplished. I could be wrong.
    The experts are supposed to supply that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The experts are supposed to supply that.
    And that they did...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Actually Marx grew impatient and left the ranks of libertarian anarchists for authoritarianism with the Coomunist Manifesto specifying "socialism" or the dictatorship of the proletariate as the transition.

    (Of course no authoritarian rad leads to anarchy.)
    Right, he didn't have any $#@!ing clue how to get to where he thought he wanted to be, so he left us socialists to do the work for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Right, he didn't have any $#@!ing clue how to get to where he thought he wanted to be, so he left us socialists to do the work for him.
    I wouldn't judge Marx too harshly in that respect. He was an intellectual. It was his "job", so to speak, to spread a vision, bring an awareness of possibilities etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I wouldn't judge Marx too harshly in that respect. He was an intellectual. It was his "job", so to speak, to spread a vision, bring an awareness of possibilities etc.
    When I hear $#@! like that I think "the guy spent his entire life in someone's basement reading textbooks, never spent an hour in the real world".

    I'm probably close to the truth too.
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