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    Agree with mainecoons, who I think advocates a policy similar to what Ron Paul did.

    But to the OP topic...
    President Obama and the media both need to find scapegoats for their total abject failure to do their jobs.
    Wholeheartedly agree, it makes no sense to blame Romney under Obama's weak watch.

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    We wouldn't even be discusing this if this administration didn't have its head up it ass and the Marines assigned to protect Embassys and Consulates had rounds for their weapons and weren't told to "stand down". Then our ambassador wouldn't have been sodomized before being killed. I don't really blame the Muslims for being ignorant, but I do blame the administration.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainecoons View Post
    Sorry, I don't agree. Romney is kidding himself. The U.S. simply does not have the resources to continue to police the world...........
    We would if the economy was booming, and especially if we actually got smart and produced all our own energy & fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainecoons View Post
    Countries that can't protect diplomats should be abandoned and that includes giving them one damn dime of our money.

    We do NOT need Egypt or Libya or Syria. Really, let them drown in their own primitiveness.

    Oh yes you do . Read your own Geopolitical Strategy .

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    Marlowe, Jack Napier, Creation or Snakestretcher?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartmouthwoman View Post
    Yep, now we're on the same page.
    Unfortunely Romney isn't on the same page. From his talking points I'm assuming he gonna go down the same road as Bush an Obama. One of my main points against him.
    "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth.…To you it will be... And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. (Genesis 1:29-31).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuck_In_California View Post
    Weekly Standard: Romney Is Right
    by William Kristol
    > http://www.npr.org/2012/09/13/161061...omney-is-right

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    One can question the timing and tone of Mitt Romney's statement last night. One can note he wasn't as fluent and clear as he might have been at his press conference this morning. Still, the fact remains that the events of Sept. 11, 2012, represent a big moment for the country. Romney is right to sense this, and to seize on this moment as an occasion to explain the difference between his foreign policy and President Obama's. He's right to reject the counsel of the mainstream media, which is to keep quiet and give President Obama a pass.

    Mark Halperin tweeted this morning, "Unless Mitt has gamed crisis out in some manner completely invisible to Gang of 500, doubling down=most craven + ill-advised move of '12." Halperin couldn't be more wrong. Romney is right to bring home the weakness of the Obama administration, exemplified in the disgraceful statement issued yesterday, September 11, by the American embassy in Cairo — a statement, I believe, that would have to have been cleared by the State Department.

    I'd add this: Romney deserves credit for emphasizing today that the events in Cairo and Benghazi remind us of the need for American leadership. He refused to cater to what must be a widespread (and understandable, if short-sighted) 'let's just get out of that crazy part of the world' sentiment among the public. He spoke in the tradition of conservative internationalism.

    So, so far, I believe, pretty much so good. The question is, what comes next?

    Will Romney follow up this moment with sober foreign policy statements and substantive speeches? Will he put behind him once and for all two misconceptions that have bedeviled his campaign — that foreign policy is a distraction, and that, when Romney does dip into foreign policy, it's enough simply to take swipes at Obama? Will Romney seize the moment to spend time with some of his serious foreign policy advisers — even if to do so he has to cancel a trip to a swing state or (gasp!) a fundraiser — in order really to think through the meaning of these events, and prepare serious, presidential-level responses?

    If Romney can prove both strong and thoughtful on foreign policy over the next few days, it could be an inflection point in the presidential campaign
    Excellent post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainecoons View Post
    Sorry, I don't agree. Romney is kidding himself. The U.S. simply does not have the resources to continue to police the world. The best strategy is to make our country fully independent of that region and drastically lower our profile there. We most certainly do have the capability to be energy independent, not with airy fairy technology but with good old fashioned oil, gas and coal.

    This is my big problem with Romney. It is ridiculous to think that the red ink can be staunched without drastically reducing our military expenditure. We've followed the Russians right down the road of diverting too much of our energy and money on the military. There really is no great power out there who is going to march around taking over a bunch of countries. The age of WWII is over. The Chinese fight war with economics. The Muslims will never amount to anything because their stone-age philosophy guarantees that they will never develop the serious economic power needed to pose a threat much outside of their own region.

    It is long past the time when the U.S. should be focused on repairing itself and strengthening the western hemisphere. Let Europe get their oil from the Middle East and let them police it too. The Chinese are the next coming great world power. Our most effective counter strategy is to restore our economic strength by bringing our manufacturing home from China, becoming resource independent (their real Achilles heel) and becoming a well regarded partner in this hemisphere.
    You are right in that the US has to stop playing international cop. Libya was the last example and even moderated by France and Canada [who called the shots there or wouldn't play] and look where that led.

    But, Romney is right that the US MUST protect its interests abroad especially its own embassies and staff. Obama wears this one. Washington was warned weeks ago about building tensions leading up to 911. Canada severed all ties with Iran - the first time outside of a war where the country has done that - because of security concerns for its diplomats and began bringing home all non-essential staff from Libya and Egypt weeks ago.
    Canada is a country that has no CIA and is a follower in international intrigue...the poor cousin if you will. If they and Germany [it is now revealed] and Britain took extra security measures weeks ago, where the $#@! was Obama?
    Playing rock star.

    He owns this $#@! hole.

    So bash Mitt mouth all you want, but it happened on Obama's watch, and happened to a president who boasted he understood the Muslim world because he had lived there and his sister was one.
    So let's get honest here.....Obama $#@!ed up and Americans are dead, one of them brutally sodomized as torture....
    Sorry, he has to wear that.

    The cheap $#@! has to stop blaming everyone else and obscure films for his abject failures and his mindless followers have to stop apologizing for him, grow the $#@! up and stop blaming everything and everyone else.

    This $#@!'s "foreign policy" is a disaster. The US has one friend left in the middle east, Saudi Arabia, Israel hates him, and all of Europe is laughing at him. And even Canada, the US's staunchest ally for 150 years is no longer on speaking terms...Obama is still pouting over getting publicly spanked by Harper over the 1967 Israeli borders idiocy in Paris.

    Mr. Obama, you are running out of friends. When the suitcase bomb goes off in Washington you will have South Korea to fall back on while the rest of the world says..."tough $#@!, you asked for it".
    Last edited by Deadwood; 09-14-2012 at 11:27 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by URF8 View Post
    Marlowe, Jack Napier, Creation or Snakestretcher?
    Does it matter?

    A dumb ass wipe Englishman is a dumb ass wipe Englishman.

    We need only concern ourselves with those who have at least double digit IQ's and those with balls enough not to hide behind a raft of false identities.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Carygrant View Post
    Oh yes you do . Read your own Geopolitical Strategy .
    And England is doing what..?

    Those who live in glass houses should never go naked,


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