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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    Creating laws that forbid the "mixing" of races is pretty much the definition of racism , I would think.
    I don't think I've ever seen that definition of racism, Mark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    Does White Nationalism = Racism ?

    Yes

    Does Black Nationalism = Racism ?

    Yes

    Does Yellow Nationalism = Racism ?

    Yes

    Any more questions ??

    I would argue it depends. Each above nationalism can be divided into separatism and supremacism. The one tends to be pro-race/culture/etc, though is can have shades of the other, which is anti-race, or racist.

    The Nordic nations' reaction to the influx of immigrants forced by the EU is mainly defensive protection of the culture they had and not, I think, anti-Muslim, or anti-French, or whoever is immigrating there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I was hoping Xl was wrong. Oh well...
    Trump may hold some positions that white nationalist agree with, but he also holds positions that would benefit blacks and legal Hispanics as well. The media won't tell you that though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I was hoping Xl was wrong. Oh well...

    The suggestion was made that black nationalism is of equal gravity as white nationalism, that is all. Black nationalists don't get retweeted by presidential candidates. If that starts happening we can re-evaluate our concern.

    The effect on society of white racism and black racism is not equivalent. This should be self-evident, but there are always stragglers and hard cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    The suggestion was made that black nationalism is of equal gravity as white nationalism, that is all. Black nationalists don't get retweeted by presidential candidates. If that starts happening we can re-evaluate our concern.

    The effect on society of white racism and black racism is not equivalent. This should be self-evident, but there are always stragglers and hard cases.
    Did Trump just not like the quote? He also put over Putin's strength, is he also a Russian spy?

    Stop with the ridiculous reaches, it's embarrassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I would argue it depends. Each above nationalism can be divided into separatism and supremacism. The one tends to be pro-race/culture/etc, though is can have shades of the other, which is anti-race, or racist.

    The Nordic nations' reaction to the influx of immigrants forced by the EU is mainly defensive protection of the culture they had and not, I think, anti-Muslim, or anti-French, or whoever is immigrating there.
    I agree, but I was mostly speaking/posting in the context of Mark III's Trump bashing.
    It's ok if you disagree with me. I can't force you to be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    The suggestion was made that black nationalism is of equal gravity as white nationalism, that is all. Black nationalists don't get retweeted by presidential candidates. If that starts happening we can re-evaluate our concern.

    The effect on society of white racism and black racism is not equivalent. This should be self-evident, but there are always stragglers and hard cases.
    Nothing at all was said or implied about "equal gravity". You were asked to denounce all racial nationalism. The fact that you can't or won't suggests you're laughably inconsistent but we certainly needed no reminder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    Any presidential candidates been retweeting black nationalists that you know of?
    Call when Trump proposes any sort of policy supporting such. Hell call me whenever your bash du jour proposes any such nonsense.
    It's ok if you disagree with me. I can't force you to be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    Call when Trump proposes any sort of policy supporting such. Hell call me whenever your bash du jour proposes any such nonsense.
    Didn't you hear about that high school basketball game in Texas where a "Trump inspired" racist chant was heard? Mark was right on it so you must have heard abut it, hanger.
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