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    The problem in summary about "Mountainous Karabakh" region.

    During the collapse of the Soviets, Armenians and Azerian Turks claimed ownership on these lands. Armenians claimed that these lands belongs to them because they are overly populated there. Azerians claimed that the area belongs to them because of it was their land historicaly since long time and overpopulation of Armenians in the region is because of Russian support to Armenians and placing Armenians on Turkish lands. The clashes continues since long years for the area. The most tragic event during the clashes was the massacre of 613 Azeri civilians by Armenian terrorists in Hodjali village, including 83 kids, 106 women, elders more than 70, in year 1992.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemiteArt View Post
    Azerbaijan Turkish State has launced an operation to take back stolen lands from Armenia.

    "Heavy fighting has broken out between Armenian and Azerbaijani forces along the front lines of the separatist Nagorno-Karabakh region, the two sides said, disputing who had violated a fragile ceasefire again.Both sides report numerous casualties, accusing each other on Saturday of violating a ceasefire, a sign that the two-decade-old conflict which has left some 30,000 people dead is far from a peaceful resolution."

    Source: http://www.trtworld.com/europe/armen...karabakh-80579
    That 30,000 number is a bit on the light side.

    The Armenian Genocide[8] (Armenian: Հայոց ցեղասպանություն Hayots tseghaspanutyun),[note 3] also known as the Armenian Holocaust,[9] the Armenian Massacres and, traditionally by Armenians, as the Aghet (Armenian: աղետ, translated as "Catastrophe")[10] or Medz Yeghern (Armenian: Մեծ Եղեռն, translated as "Great Crime")[11] was the Ottoman government's systematic extermination of its minority Armenian subjects inside their historic homeland, which lies within the present-day Republic of Turkey. The number of victims is estimated at between 800,000 and 1.5 million.[12][13] The starting date is conventionally held to be 24 April 1915, the day Ottoman authorities rounded up, arrested, and deported some 250 Armenian intellectuals and community leaders from Constantinople to Ankara, the majority of whom were eventually murdered.
    The genocide was carried out during and after World War I and implemented in two phases: the wholesale killing of the able-bodied male population through massacre and subjection of army conscripts to forced labour, followed by the deportation of women, children, the elderly and infirm on death marches leading to the Syrian desert. Driven forward by military escorts, the deportees were deprived of food and water and subjected to periodic robbery, rape, and massacre.[14][15][16] Other indigenous and Christian ethnic groups such as the Assyrians and the Ottoman Greeks were similarly targeted for extermination by the Ottoman government, and their treatment is considered by some historians to be part of the same genocidal policy.[17][18] Most Armenian diaspora communities around the world came into being as a direct result of the genocide.[19]
    Raphael Lemkin was explicitly moved by the Armenian annihilation to coin the word genocide in 1943 and define systematic and premeditated exterminations within legal parameters.[20] The Armenian Genocide is acknowledged to have been one of the first modern genocides,[21][22][23] because scholars point to the organized manner in which the killings were carried out in order to eliminate the Armenians, and it is the second most-studied case of genocide after the Holocaust.[24]
    Turkey, the successor state of the Ottoman Empire, denies the word genocide as an accurate term for the mass killings of Armenians that began under Ottoman rule in 1915. It has in recent years been faced with repeated calls to recognize them as genocide.[25] To date, 29 countries have officially recognized the mass killings as genocide,[26] a view which is shared by most genocide scholars and historians.[27][28][29]

    Much more, unfortunately, at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
    Wearing a mask with your nose sticking out is like wearing a condom on your testicles.

    When out walking, look out for PROBlems. You know: maskless Plague Rats On Bicycles who blow past you without giving you time to get out of the way.

    Ah, CONServatives, the Masters of Projection (MOPs). With CONServatives, every accusation is a confession. Weird, that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OGIS View Post
    That 30,000 number is a bit on the light side.

    The Armenian Genocide[8] (Armenian: Հայոց ցեղասպանություն Hayots tseghaspanutyun),[note 3] also known as the Armenian Holocaust,[9] the Armenian Massacres and, traditionally by Armenians, as the Aghet (Armenian: աղետ, translated as "Catastrophe")[10] or Medz Yeghern (Armenian: Մեծ Եղեռն, translated as "Great Crime")[11] was the Ottoman government's systematic extermination of its minority Armenian subjects inside their historic homeland, which lies within the present-day Republic of Turkey. The number of victims is estimated at between 800,000 and 1.5 million.[12][13] The starting date is conventionally held to be 24 April 1915, the day Ottoman authorities rounded up, arrested, and deported some 250 Armenian intellectuals and community leaders from Constantinople to Ankara, the majority of whom were eventually murdered.
    The genocide was carried out during and after World War I and implemented in two phases: the wholesale killing of the able-bodied male population through massacre and subjection of army conscripts to forced labour, followed by the deportation of women, children, the elderly and infirm on death marches leading to the Syrian desert. Driven forward by military escorts, the deportees were deprived of food and water and subjected to periodic robbery, rape, and massacre.[14][15][16] Other indigenous and Christian ethnic groups such as the Assyrians and the Ottoman Greeks were similarly targeted for extermination by the Ottoman government, and their treatment is considered by some historians to be part of the same genocidal policy.[17][18] Most Armenian diaspora communities around the world came into being as a direct result of the genocide.[19]
    Raphael Lemkin was explicitly moved by the Armenian annihilation to coin the word genocide in 1943 and define systematic and premeditated exterminations within legal parameters.[20] The Armenian Genocide is acknowledged to have been one of the first modern genocides,[21][22][23] because scholars point to the organized manner in which the killings were carried out in order to eliminate the Armenians, and it is the second most-studied case of genocide after the Holocaust.[24]
    Turkey, the successor state of the Ottoman Empire, denies the word genocide as an accurate term for the mass killings of Armenians that began under Ottoman rule in 1915. It has in recent years been faced with repeated calls to recognize them as genocide.[25] To date, 29 countries have officially recognized the mass killings as genocide,[26] a view which is shared by most genocide scholars and historians.[27][28][29]

    Much more, unfortunately, at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

    LoL one of the biggest lies of the history I cant believe how they fool millions of people with such a cheap lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemiteArt View Post
    LoL one of the biggest lies of the history I cant believe how they fool millions of people with such a cheap lie.
    I don't suppose you've ever considered that you might be the one who is being fooled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemiteArt View Post
    LoL one of the biggest lies of the history I cant believe how they fool millions of people with such a cheap lie.
    The Armenian Genocide, like the Holocaust, is quite well documented.
    Wearing a mask with your nose sticking out is like wearing a condom on your testicles.

    When out walking, look out for PROBlems. You know: maskless Plague Rats On Bicycles who blow past you without giving you time to get out of the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OGIS View Post
    The Armenian Genocide, like the Holocaust, is quite well documented.
    Then what is the problem ? Its simple, they just need to apply to War Crimes Tribunal and provide their "well documented documents" to the court. They reject to do so. I am looking at the event objective and all the clues show me the rightness of Turkish side. US has really a big archieve about this issue as far as I know but US reject to open its archives, probably with the pressure of Armenian and Jewish lobby. If there was documents which proves the rightness of Armenians in US archives, they would not wait even for 1 second to open to public. Another point is Turkish side offers to create a common comission which consist of historians from different countries and make common researches about the event. Armenians and their supporters reject it too. Turkiye says they are ready to open Turkish archieves to anyone and they want Armenians to open their archieves to anyone, Armenians reject it too. I am personally not a historian or politican, just an ordinary student. I even researched before about the claims and I have found that at least 3-4 Armenians documents are fake !!! Fake photos, fake articles. For example they use massacred Turkish villager's photos such as its Armenian civilians.



    These clues show openly that this is a big lie.



    By the way, the holocoust also has many question marks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SemiteArt View Post
    Then what is the problem ? Its simple, they just need to apply to War Crimes Tribunal and provide their "well documented documents" to the court. They reject to do so. I am looking at the event objective and all the clues show me the rightness of Turkish side. US has really a big archieve about this issue as far as I know but US reject to open its archives, probably with the pressure of Armenian and Jewish lobby. If there was documents which proves the rightness of Armenians in US archives, they would not wait even for 1 second to open to public. Another point is Turkish side offers to create a common comission which consist of historians from different countries and make common researches about the event. Armenians and their supporters reject it too. Turkiye says they are ready to open Turkish archieves to anyone and they want Armenians to open their archieves to anyone, Armenians reject it too. I am personally is not a historian or politican, just an ordinary student. I even researched before about the claims and I have found that at least 3-4 Armenians documents are fake !!! Fake photos, fake articles. For example they use massacred Turkish villager's photos such as its Armenian civilians.


    This clues show openly that this is a big lie.



    By the way, the holocoust also has many question marks.
    Oh, great, your a Holocaust Denier, as well?

    LoL.

    Leopards don't change their spots. The BS being perpetrated against the Kurds by the current regime in Turkey is quite enough proof for me that the Armenian Genocide is fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OGIS View Post
    Oh, great, your a Holocaust Denier, as well?

    LoL.

    Leopards don't change their spots. The BS being perpetrated against the Kurds by the current regime in Turkey is quite enough proof for me that the Armenian Genocide is fact.
    I knew it was a mistake to communicate with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemiteArt View Post
    I knew it was a mistake to communicate with you.
    Well I guess you better hurry up and TB me then! That seems to be your stock defense against criticism.
    Wearing a mask with your nose sticking out is like wearing a condom on your testicles.

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    ............Oh, what fresh hell is this?
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    Clashes continues in the region. Azeris claim they shot and destroy a headquarter, 12 military vehicles and about 170 Armenian terrorists.

    Source: http://en.trend.az/azerbaijan/karabakh/2514575.html

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