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Thread: Wisconsin Court Strikes Down States Right To Work Law

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    I believe if you do not wish to join a union it should be the workers right but I do not believe the company should be required to provide the contract terms and conditions to the non-union employees.
    Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I digress....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subdermal View Post
    You're an interesting poster. You have totally rational views at times, and utterly off the rails views as well. Lol
    Let me guess: those times when you consider that I've gone "off the rails" are also - by sheer coincidence - the times when I disagree with you?

    Please explain how holding the view that a worker should not be forced to give up part of his or her paycheck to an organization which they have decided not to join is in any way "off the rails".

    The analogy I've drawn before - and I still think it's a pretty good one - is that of the homeless individual who squeegees some dirty water around on your windshield at the stop light and then demands money for his "service". When government gets involved on the side of the unions in this way, it's like a cop has come on the scene, pointed his gun at your head and ordered you to comply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Let me guess: those times when you consider that I've gone "off the rails" are also - by sheer coincidence - the times when I disagree with you?
    Naturally. Because I'm always correct, and you get it right about 50% of the time!



    Please explain how holding the view that a worker should not be forced to give up part of his or her paycheck to an organization which they have decided not to join is in any way "off the rails".
    I can't - because I agreed with you. Didn't you see the 'like' from me on that post before I responded to it?

    This is now part of the 50% that you're wrong.

    The analogy I've drawn before - and I still think it's a pretty good one - is that of the homeless individual who squeegees some dirty water around on your windshield at the stop light and then demands money for his "service". When government gets involved on the side of the unions in this way, it's like a cop has come on the scene, pointed his gun at your head and ordered you to comply.
    Back to correct again!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublejack View Post
    When unions die those middle class American workers are replaced with cheap labor/illegals.

    just sayin'.
    Build a wall.

    just sayin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    I believe if you do not wish to join a union it should be the workers right but I do not believe the company should be required to provide the contract terms and conditions to the non-union employees.
    It is certainly easier for the employer to treat union and non-union the same. But if I was working there, I would ask the boss if we could toss X, Y, and Z off the union contract and boost my pay by 10%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
    That's just plains sadistic! So you are saying that workers don't have a right to organize?
    They an organize whatever the hell they want. They can organize a company picnic. What they shouldn't be allowed to do is force their coworkers to support their cause.
    It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subdermal View Post
    Perhaps you missed it. This has nothing to do with the right to organize. This has to do with the fact that no Union has the right to force people to pay dues which they do not want to pay, nor force people to join a union that they don't want to join.

    In fact, you have it backwards. This is about the right for workers to NOT organize, if they wish not to organize.
    Works for me. Just let them negotiate their own pay and benefits separately from the union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Works for me. Just let them negotiate their own pay and benefits separately from the union.
    As it should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    Why should anyone who chooses not to join a union be forced to pay union dues?

    Unions have outlived their usefulness and really should be abolished.
    Because the unions are forced to provide a service to you but yet you don't have to pay for the service; that's like theft of service. I understand you don't believe in unions, but perhaps you should studly up on the history of them before you cement your position. Might learn something,.
    God Bless America, God Bless our Military and God Bless the Police who defended the country against the insurgents on January 6, 2021

    Think 3rd party for 2024 folks. Clean up America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    So let me get this straight : It's unconstitutional in Wisconsin to NOT force workers to join a union against their will? Only in the "land of the used to free"
    No Don, You are wrong. No one can be either forced to join nor forced not to join.
    Last edited by gamewell45; 04-09-2016 at 04:42 PM.
    God Bless America, God Bless our Military and God Bless the Police who defended the country against the insurgents on January 6, 2021

    Think 3rd party for 2024 folks. Clean up America.

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