User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12

Thread: Beware China’s quantitative tightening

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Points: 667,551, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 97.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassYour first GroupOverdrive50000 Experience PointsTagger First ClassVeteran
    Awards:
    Discussion Ender
    Chris's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    433804
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    198,047
    Points
    667,551
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    32,174
    Thanked 81,393x in 54,974 Posts
    Mentioned
    2013 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)

    Beware China’s quantitative tightening

    Interesting, while we're engaged in more quatitative easing, Beware China’s quantitative tightening
    Last week, confirmation of a fresh round of quantitative easing by Fed chairman Ben Bernanke, lifted equity markets all the way to Asia.

    But given the shift eastwards in the growth dynamics of the world economy, perhaps it’s the actions of the People’s Bank of China (PBOC) we should be more focused on.

    After all, in the aftermath of the Lehman financial crisis, it was China — not the U.S. — that deployed a mega stimulus that helped lift not just its own economy, but everything from commodities and luxury goods to properties from Hong Kong to Vancouver.

    Perhaps unsurprisingly, it has also been China that created the majority of new money globally in the past five years supported by its bulging trade surpluses.

    Now, however, some analysts are warning China’s money tap is running dry and this could trigger the next major deflationary shock....

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to Chris For This Useful Post:

    waltky (11-14-2012)

  3. #2
    Points: 12,622, Level: 26
    Level completed: 97%, Points required for next Level: 28
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran10000 Experience Points
    URF8's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    800
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    1,219
    Points
    12,622
    Level
    26
    Thanks Given
    304
    Thanked 301x in 222 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I think the entire world may be teetering on the edge of recession.

  4. #3
    Points: 20,278, Level: 34
    Level completed: 58%, Points required for next Level: 472
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    Carygrant's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    -4124
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    england
    Posts
    3,927
    Points
    20,278
    Level
    34
    Thanks Given
    257
    Thanked 282x in 246 Posts
    Mentioned
    14 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by URF8 View Post
    I think the entire world may be teetering on the edge of recession.

    Gosh and golly . Einstein is back .
    Carygrant told you that years ago . Blimey that's me .

  5. #4
    Points: 667,551, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 97.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassYour first GroupOverdrive50000 Experience PointsTagger First ClassVeteran
    Awards:
    Discussion Ender
    Chris's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    433804
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    198,047
    Points
    667,551
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    32,174
    Thanked 81,393x in 54,974 Posts
    Mentioned
    2013 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Carygrant View Post
    Gosh and golly . Einstein is back .
    Carygrant told you that years ago . Blimey that's me .
    Warning: Other Discussions are for more serious discussion and stricter moderation. The rules apply but, on the positive side, we will also require that all posts make a contribution be it information, question or argumentation, and on the negative side we will not allow trolling, inflammatory remarks, personal attacks, or off-topic comments.

  6. #5
    Points: 667,551, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 97.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassYour first GroupOverdrive50000 Experience PointsTagger First ClassVeteran
    Awards:
    Discussion Ender
    Chris's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    433804
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    198,047
    Points
    667,551
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    32,174
    Thanked 81,393x in 54,974 Posts
    Mentioned
    2013 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    With governments doing this and that to save the world but only making it worse.

    "The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."
    ~Friedrich von Hayek

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to Chris For This Useful Post:

    URF8 (09-19-2012)

  8. #6
    Original Ranter
    Points: 863,064, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.9%
    Achievements:
    SocialCreated Album picturesOverdrive50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Awards:
    Posting Award
    Peter1469's Avatar Advisor
    Karma
    497379
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    NOVA
    Posts
    242,707
    Points
    863,064
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    153,631
    Thanked 148,389x in 94,875 Posts
    Mentioned
    2554 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    China allowed its money supply to grow into a bubble. If it doesn't tighten up policy they will have a crash. They are much less able to wait out crashes since they have so many people not on the government dole (unlike the US).

  9. #7
    Points: 667,551, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 97.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassYour first GroupOverdrive50000 Experience PointsTagger First ClassVeteran
    Awards:
    Discussion Ender
    Chris's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    433804
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    198,047
    Points
    667,551
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    32,174
    Thanked 81,393x in 54,974 Posts
    Mentioned
    2013 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    The question is, to me, what effect Chinese QT will have on us with our QE and the rest of the world.

    Won't it have the same effect as the Fed raising interest rates so banks would hold their excess reserves* while at the same time printing money in QE1 and QE2.

    It's like we're butting heads internationally and nationally. Not all that intelligent.


    * The Fed Should Stop Paying Banks Not to Lend

  10. #8
    Original Ranter
    Points: 863,064, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.9%
    Achievements:
    SocialCreated Album picturesOverdrive50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Awards:
    Posting Award
    Peter1469's Avatar Advisor
    Karma
    497379
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    NOVA
    Posts
    242,707
    Points
    863,064
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    153,631
    Thanked 148,389x in 94,875 Posts
    Mentioned
    2554 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Didn't Paul Volcker tighten the money supply to solve the stagflation problem?

  11. #9
    Points: 667,551, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 97.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassYour first GroupOverdrive50000 Experience PointsTagger First ClassVeteran
    Awards:
    Discussion Ender
    Chris's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    433804
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    198,047
    Points
    667,551
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    32,174
    Thanked 81,393x in 54,974 Posts
    Mentioned
    2013 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Man, that goes way back, Carter years. I think Volcker did both, tightened then eased. But I'd bet he raised bank reserve interests rates when he tightened, and lowered when he eased, at least that would make sense, unlike now.

  12. #10
    Points: 667,551, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 97.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassYour first GroupOverdrive50000 Experience PointsTagger First ClassVeteran
    Awards:
    Discussion Ender
    Chris's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    433804
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    198,047
    Points
    667,551
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    32,174
    Thanked 81,393x in 54,974 Posts
    Mentioned
    2013 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Not exactly to the point but in this episode of The Invisible Hand Podcast Gondek interviews William Silber who recently wrote a book the life of Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker.

  13. The Following User Says Thank You to Chris For This Useful Post:

    Peter1469 (09-20-2012)

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts