Guns beat crowbars.

[domer76]

Most of them suicides, which do not present a significant threat to public safety.

But even if we include suicides in the numbers, the percentage is still a measly 0.01%, meaning 99.99% of the country is in little to no danger of being killed by a firearm.

Not sure how you can pretend that 0.01% of the population dying from something is a national tragedy that requires immediate action from politicians.

"Immediate action"? $#@! o dear that's funny! Where the hell have you been for the last 20, 30, 40+ years?

Jesus H. Christ

[domer76]

Suicides are not pertinent to discussions of public safety, especially when there are strong arguments to be made in favor of an individual's right to take their own life.

But even if we include suicides and all other forms of gun-related deaths in the data, it only amounts to around 0.01%.

In other words, statistically insignificant.

The gun death rate in the U.S. exceeds all other developed countries. Sorry, pally. VERY significant.

Another failure on your part.

[domer76]

I have provided a mountain of evidence soundly refuting every platitude you've spewed forth so far.

As usual, you lose.

Find the platitude, Rufus.



Data from a US mortality follow-back survey were analyzed to determine whether having a firearm in the home increases the risk of a violent death in the home and whether risk varies by storage practice, type of gun, or number of guns in the home. Those persons with guns in the home were at greater risk than those without guns in the home of dying from a homicide in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 1.9, 95% confidence interval: 1.1, 3.4). They were also at greater risk of dying from a firearm homicide, but risk varied by age and whether the person was living with others at the time of death. The risk of dying from a suicide in the home was greater for males in homes with guns than for males without guns in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 10.4, 95% confidence interval: 5.8, 18.9). Persons with guns in the home were also more likely to have died from suicide committed with a firearm than from one committed by using a different method (adjusted odds ratio = 31.1, 95% confidence interval: 19.5, 49.6). Results show that regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home, having a gun in the home was associated with an increased risk of firearm homicide and firearm suicide in the home.

http://m.aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/10/929.fullu

[Ethereal]

A gun death is irrelevant to the topic of gun deaths? What the $#@! is wrong with your comprehension?

Suicides are not relevant to discussions of public safety or gun control.

One, because there is a strong argument to be made that taking one's life is an individual right.

Two, because someone killing themselves with a gun doesn't present a significant threat to public safety.

And three, because there is little to no evidence that gun control will significantly reduce the rate at which people kill themselves.

The only reason you want to talk about suicides is because it makes the problem appear worse than it actually is.

But even if we are generous and allow you to insert suicides into the discussion, we're still talking about a measly 0.01% risk of being killed by a firearm.

In other words, statistically insignificant.

[Ethereal]

"Immediate action"? $#@! o dear that's funny! Where the hell have you been for the last 20, 30, 40+ years?

Jesus H. Christ

Listening to people like you claim that gun-related deaths are some kind of national tragedy that requires immediate action from politicians, that's where.

[domer76]

Another attempt to include suicides in order to make the problem appear worse than it actually is.

And your study seems to back my earlier contention about gun-related homicides being confined largely to Democrat-run urban enclaves.

"Homicide victims were mostly male, less than 35 years of age, and of racial or ethnic minority status."

In other words, most of the homicide victims were gang members who lived in a city like Chicago or Detroit.

What do you fail to understand about the term "gun death"?

[Ethereal]

The gun death rate in the U.S. exceeds all other developed countries. Sorry, pally. VERY significant.

Another failure on your part.

Because of suicides, which are entirely irrelevant to discussions about public safety and gun control.

However, gun-related homicides, which are relevant to discussions about public safety, are only marginally worse than in other developed countries, and the problem is confined almost exclusively to Democrat enclaves like Chicago and Detroit where there are already strict gun control laws.

So any way you look at it, you're dead wrong.

[Ethereal]

Find the platitude, Rufus.



Data from a US mortality follow-back survey were analyzed to determine whether having a firearm in the home increases the risk of a violent death in the home and whether risk varies by storage practice, type of gun, or number of guns in the home. Those persons with guns in the home were at greater risk than those without guns in the home of dying from a homicide in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 1.9, 95% confidence interval: 1.1, 3.4). They were also at greater risk of dying from a firearm homicide, but risk varied by age and whether the person was living with others at the time of death. The risk of dying from a suicide in the home was greater for males in homes with guns than for males without guns in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 10.4, 95% confidence interval: 5.8, 18.9). Persons with guns in the home were also more likely to have died from suicide committed with a firearm than from one committed by using a different method (adjusted odds ratio = 31.1, 95% confidence interval: 19.5, 49.6). Results show that regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home, having a gun in the home was associated with an increased risk of firearm homicide and firearm suicide in the home.

http://m.aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/10/929.fullu

Already addressed.

We're talking about 0.01% of the population.

That's statistically insignificant.

And as your study indicates, the majority of homicides are gang members who live in Democrat enclaves like Chicago and Detroit.

[domer76]

Listening to people like you claim that gun-related deaths are some kind of national tragedy that requires immediate action from politicians, that's where.

lol

Did you just wake up from a 40 year sleep, Rip? "Immediate action" is the comment of a moron.

[Ethereal]

What do you fail to understand about the term "gun death"?

Nothing.

But not every gun death is relevant to discussions about public safety or gun control.

Suicides, for example, are not relevant to either.