User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 35

Thread: Federal appeals court rules gun owners do not have right to concealed carry

  1. #11

    tPF Moderator
    Points: 74,308, Level: 66
    Level completed: 51%, Points required for next Level: 1,142
    Overall activity: 14.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Cletus's Avatar tPF Moderator
    Karma
    195692
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    32,309
    Points
    74,308
    Level
    66
    Thanks Given
    3,678
    Thanked 27,377x in 15,846 Posts
    Mentioned
    412 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I am not certain the Supreme Court will overrule this decision. Historically, concealed carry has always been up to state legislatures to decide. Even my state, which is very gun friendly has it written directly in the State Constitution.

    STATE CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION - Article II, Section 6.

    “No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms.”

    That is why had to pass a separate concealed carry act in 2003. If concealed carry was historically considered a basic component of the right to keep and bear arms, we would by now, have national concealed carry reciprocity. We do not. That said, more states are now passing what they refer to as "Constitutional Carry" acts which do recognize an inherent right to carry a concealed firearm... a right protected by the Second Amendment.

    I would certainly like to see it happen, but I am hesitant to try to predict which way the Court would swing if this case was presented to them.
    Last edited by Cletus; 06-10-2016 at 10:09 AM.

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to Cletus For This Useful Post:

    TrueBlue (06-10-2016)

  3. #12
    Points: 64,730, Level: 62
    Level completed: 14%, Points required for next Level: 1,820
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    The Xl's Avatar Advisor
    Karma
    196597
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    27,967
    Points
    64,730
    Level
    62
    Thanks Given
    6,255
    Thanked 19,792x in 11,974 Posts
    Mentioned
    433 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Openly rogue court with no legitimacy.

  4. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to The Xl For This Useful Post:

    stjames1_53 (06-10-2016),Subdermal (06-10-2016),Truth Detector (06-10-2016)

  5. #13
    Points: 101,134, Level: 77
    Level completed: 46%, Points required for next Level: 1,416
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    TrueBlue's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    30418
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    U.S.A.
    Posts
    10,146
    Points
    101,134
    Level
    77
    Thanks Given
    7,552
    Thanked 1,957x in 1,656 Posts
    Mentioned
    320 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    I am not certain the Supreme Court will overrule this decision. Historically, concealed carry has always been up to state legislatures to decide. Even my state, which is very gun friendly has it written directly in the State Constitution.

    STATE CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION - Article II, Section 6.

    “No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms.”

    That is why had to pass a separate concealed carry act in 2003. If concealed carry was historically considered a basic component of the right to keep and bear arms, we would by now, have national concealed carry reciprocity. We do not. That said, more states are now passing what they refer to as "Constitutional Carry" acts which do recognize an inherent right to carry a concealed firearm... a right protected by the Second Amendment.

    I would certainly like to see it happen, but I am hesitant to try to predict which way the Court would swing if this case was presented to them.
    There can be little doubt that if it went next to the SCOTUS it would more than likely result in a 4-4 tie vote which, of course, means that the Federal Appeals Court ruling would stand.

    Bet Senate Republicans now wish they had taken President Obama's Supreme Court nominee and voted to confirm him. He may have been just the person to help them out and save the day for gun rights activists.
    Let's see how much care and compassion Trump and Republicans show for their fellow Americans to truly help them out in their time of need.

    Let's start the count to see if Trump comes through on the many things he promised to do for Americans. If he doesn't, along with a Republican Congress, then what's his and their excuse?


  6. #14
    Points: 20,268, Level: 34
    Level completed: 57%, Points required for next Level: 482
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    domer76's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    53880
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    Boise, ID
    Posts
    10,601
    Points
    20,268
    Level
    34
    Thanks Given
    3,250
    Thanked 2,059x in 1,705 Posts
    Mentioned
    81 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Openly rogue court with no legitimacy.
    "Activist judges"! You poor slobs!

  7. #15
    Points: 29,471, Level: 41
    Level completed: 88%, Points required for next Level: 179
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Truth Detector's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    97674
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    12,009
    Points
    29,471
    Level
    41
    Thanks Given
    9,928
    Thanked 2,161x in 1,846 Posts
    Mentioned
    79 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBlue View Post
    There can be little doubt that if it went next to the SCOTUS it would more than likely result in a 4-4 tie vote which, of course, means that the Federal Appeals Court ruling would stand.
    Which makes the argument already made that this court is beyond disgusting taking a case and re-interpreting the law in the hopes this would not get a hearing for quite some time.

    But then, unconstitutional judicial activism is the ONLY leftist tards can move their agenda forward. They could never win the hearts of the majority of voters as has been illustrated time and time again.

    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBlue View Post
    Bet Senate Republicans now wish they had taken President Obama's Supreme Court nominee and voted to confirm him. He may have been just the person to help them out and save the day for gun rights activists.
    Why? They are much better off waiting for a Trump Presidency. Man, December is going to be a tough month for Liberuls who think Hillary has already won.

  8. #16
    Points: 20,268, Level: 34
    Level completed: 57%, Points required for next Level: 482
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    domer76's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    53880
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    Boise, ID
    Posts
    10,601
    Points
    20,268
    Level
    34
    Thanks Given
    3,250
    Thanked 2,059x in 1,705 Posts
    Mentioned
    81 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Which makes the argument already made that this court is beyond disgusting taking a case and re-interpreting the law in the hopes this would not get a hearing for quite some time.

    But then, unconstitutional judicial activism is the ONLY leftist tards can move their agenda forward. They could never win the hearts of the majority of voters as has been illustrated time and time again.



    Why? They are much better off waiting for a Trump Presidency. Man, December is going to be a tough month for Liberuls who think Hillary has already won.
    You poor $#@!s should have taken Obama's nominee.

  9. The Following User Says Thank You to domer76 For This Useful Post:

    TrueBlue (06-10-2016)

  10. #17
    Points: 101,134, Level: 77
    Level completed: 46%, Points required for next Level: 1,416
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    TrueBlue's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    30418
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    U.S.A.
    Posts
    10,146
    Points
    101,134
    Level
    77
    Thanks Given
    7,552
    Thanked 1,957x in 1,656 Posts
    Mentioned
    320 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Which makes the argument already made that this court is beyond disgusting taking a case and re-interpreting the law in the hopes this would not get a hearing for quite some time.

    But then, unconstitutional judicial activism is the ONLY leftist tards can move their agenda forward. They could never win the hearts of the majority of voters as has been illustrated time and time again.



    Why? They are much better off waiting for a Trump Presidency. Man, December is going to be a tough month for Liberuls who think Hillary has already won.
    Wrong. We won't "think" Hillary has already won. She will have WON!! Period.
    Let's see how much care and compassion Trump and Republicans show for their fellow Americans to truly help them out in their time of need.

    Let's start the count to see if Trump comes through on the many things he promised to do for Americans. If he doesn't, along with a Republican Congress, then what's his and their excuse?


  11. #18
    Points: 29,471, Level: 41
    Level completed: 88%, Points required for next Level: 179
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Truth Detector's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    97674
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    12,009
    Points
    29,471
    Level
    41
    Thanks Given
    9,928
    Thanked 2,161x in 1,846 Posts
    Mentioned
    79 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    You poor $#@!s should have taken Obama's nominee.
    See above; DERP

  12. #19
    Points: 29,471, Level: 41
    Level completed: 88%, Points required for next Level: 179
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Truth Detector's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    97674
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    12,009
    Points
    29,471
    Level
    41
    Thanks Given
    9,928
    Thanked 2,161x in 1,846 Posts
    Mentioned
    79 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBlue View Post
    Wrong. We won't "think" Hillary has already won. She will have WON!! Period.
    Good luck with that; November might be even tougher on you than December and January when Trump is inaugurated.

  13. #20
    Points: 20,268, Level: 34
    Level completed: 57%, Points required for next Level: 482
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    domer76's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    53880
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    Boise, ID
    Posts
    10,601
    Points
    20,268
    Level
    34
    Thanks Given
    3,250
    Thanked 2,059x in 1,705 Posts
    Mentioned
    81 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    See above; DERP
    Even you Scalia court indicated this was the case, fool.

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts