4 hikers die in AZ during record breaking heat

[TrueBlue]

The Army puts on a Bataan Death March marathon every year at White Sands Missile Range. Here are the 2016 results with maps of the course and links. And stuff.

The last time I was in Iraq we made our own.

• I’ve done 17 marathons – this was unreal. I wasn’t prepared for the sand.
• I wasn’t prepared for all the loose sand – many miles of this and a lot of it uphill.
• This course was nice due to the dirt. Not much pavement to pound the feet and joints.
• I was shocked as to how difficult walking 26.2 miles could be. I’ve been on a lot of forced marches but none were harder than this.
• Training for this course like a regular marathon doesn’t quite do the trick. I should have done a lot of hiking, hills, rough terrain type training.

And that can only exemplify that being subjected to that type of physical training or otherwise can certainly become a suicide mission. I have heard that many military personnel have perished during such training. That's sad and imho, calls for the immediate need to restructure the current system such as to avoid unnecessary deaths due to unnecessary imposed training. There has to be other ways to accomplish the same goals and objectives without imperiling the lives of participants.

[Peter1469]

And that can only exemplify that being subjected to that type of physical training or otherwise can certainly become a suicide mission. I have heard that many military personnel have perished during such training. That's sad and imho, calls for the immediate need to restructure the current system such as to avoid unnecessary deaths due to unnecessary imposed training. There has to be other ways to accomplish the same goals and objectives without imperiling the lives of participants.

Yes, a surprisingly high number of military members die in training.

[TrueBlue]

Old age must suck

If you're one of the lucky ones, you'll find out!

Well you all should know that there's two things that are a certainty in life. You either grow old or you perish younger. No way around that.

[TrueBlue]

Yes, a surprisingly high number of military members die in training.

And one just has to be pragmatic and ask themselves the question: Was it really worth losing your life over that?

[Peter1469]

And one just has to be pragmatic and ask themselves the question: Was it really worth losing your life over that?

All lot of us joined. Some stuck around.

When I was in the 82nd ABN one of our sergeants major who had been in the 82nd his entire career turned in his jump wings after a particularly bad jump. He was months away from retirement and too many paratroopers got hurt and he wanted to have a life after he got his papers. That caused a minor scandal in the upper levels at Bragg. The winds were so bad that night they had a lot of bad landings.

[Standing Wolf]

We have been 32 days now at 110+ heat. We have been as high as 117.

Yeah, but what was the humidity today. Three?

"Hey, that guy just burst into flames!"
"Yeah, but they're dry flames."

[Standing Wolf]

I plan on taking a dip too.

Well, okay, but I don't see how that's going to help.

[AZ Jim]

Yeah, but what was the humidity today. Three?

"Hey, that guy just burst into flames!"
"Yeah, but they're dry flames."

Somewhat surprisingly it's been in the mid to high 30's due to monsoon conditions. I remember the joke where the guy says "it's a dry heat" and the respondent says "so is a oven"....

[TrueBlue]

All lot of us joined. Some stuck around.

When I was in the 82nd ABN one of our sergeants major who had been in the 82nd his entire career turned in his jump wings after a particularly bad jump. He was months away from retirement and too many paratroopers got hurt and he wanted to have a life after he got his papers. That caused a minor scandal in the upper levels at Bragg. The winds were so bad that night they had a lot of bad landings.

That had to be one super intelligent Sergeant Major!