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Thread: Martin Van Creveld: Hands off Syria, Hands off Iran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan88 View Post
    How to tell if the US is using Al CIAda killers from Afghanistan?
    Testimony from Syria.
    And the fact that the US supported them in attacking Russia, Yugoslavia & Libya.

    If one doesn't know who is doing what in Syria, how can such a person dismiss various testimonies about the events there without any evidence to the contrary? At best one can only ask questions to dig up the facts making sure that one's pet hypothesis does not color his search.
    You are so keen to make this all about the US and Israel.. and there is NO evidence that is true. Some wet-behind-the-ears kid tells you he knows about pipelines and you buy into it.

    China has pulled their oil workers out of Iran.. and cancelled their project in South Pars.

    If the Iranian regime were smart, they would capitulate and rejoin the world community.. They would prosper beyond their wildest imaginings

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaarona View Post
    You are so keen to make this all about the US and Israel.. and there is NO evidence that is true. Some wet-behind-the-ears kid tells you he knows about pipelines and you buy into it.

    If the Iranian regime were smart, they would capitulate and rejoin the world community.. They would prosper beyond their wildest imaginings
    Shaarona sees no evidence, but others do.

    If the Iranians had capitulated, it would be a big gamble, because the USA is a pack of vicious liars. Khadafi capitulated, and his country was the most prosperous country in Africa & Middle East. Yet, the USA bombed that country into hell, unleashed "Muslim" terrorist cutthroat killers on them, and destroyed most of the progress that had been accomplished in Libya over the years.

    President Saddam Hussein capitulated and withdrew his army from Kuwait. The USA attacked the army and accompanying civilians with napalm and white phosphorous bombs killing most of them.

    How can any sane person view our almost perfect example of treachery and betrayal, and not resist?
    And why should they "rejoin the world community" of torture, mayhem, and slaughter that the USA, HATO, EU, Israelis, Saudis, Qatar, Turks, etc. are waging against the Mother and Father of Christian Israel, Europe, and even the Israelis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan88 View Post
    Shaarona sees no evidence, but others do.

    If the Iranians had capitulated, it would be a big gamble, because the USA is a pack of vicious liars. Khadafi capitulated, and his country was the most prosperous country in Africa & Middle East. Yet, the USA bombed that country into hell, unleashed "Muslim" terrorist cutthroat killers on them, and destroyed most of the progress that had been accomplished in Libya over the years.

    President Saddam Hussein capitulated and withdrew his army from Kuwait. The USA attacked the army and accompanying civilians with napalm and white phosphorous bombs killing most of them.

    How can any sane person view our almost perfect example of treachery and betrayal, and not resist?
    And why should they "rejoin the world community" of torture, mayhem, and slaughter that the USA, HATO, EU, Israelis, Saudis, Qatar, Turks, etc. are waging against the Mother and Father of Christian Israel, Europe, and even the Israelis?
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    You are spouting off about Ghadafi and prosperity... but you have few facts....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaarona View Post
    You are spouting off about Ghadafi and prosperity... but you have few facts....
    "few facts"
    To shaarona, "facts" are the party line from the central committee to be taken like religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan88 View Post
    "few facts"
    To shaarona, "facts" are the party line from the central committee to be taken like religion.
    You do know that Libya only produces about 1.3 million bpd.

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