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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe View Post
    What about the other points?

    What other points?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    What other points?
    You singled out one question in my response to Mac but ignored the other two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe View Post
    You singled out one question in my response to Mac but ignored the other two.

    My comment was responsive to every point you tried to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    My comment was responsive to every point you tried to make.
    He literally said that there wasn't a single point in her platform he could support. For example she is for replacing common core. If he doesn't support a single point on her platform then therefore he does not support replacing common core which would be a little surprising based on his typical responses. She wants to end nafta, which so does Trump and so you'd think Mac would be on board, he's not though since he said he doesn't support a single point on her platform. He clearly didn't read the platform and just responded in a partisan way. I'm not for every single thing on her platform but I'm just going by his own words. Do you agree with any points on her platform?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe View Post
    He literally said that there wasn't a single point in her platform he could support. For example she is for replacing common core. If he doesn't support a single point on her platform then therefore he does not support replacing common core which would be a little surprising based on his typical responses. She wants to end nafta, which so does Trump and so you'd think Mac would be on board, he's not though since he said he doesn't support a single point on her platform. He clearly didn't read the platform and just responded in a partisan way. I'm not for every single thing on her platform but I'm just going by his own words. Do you agree with any points on her platform?
    Which we know is bull$#@!. After all:

    Replace NAFTA and other corporate free trade agreements that export American jobs, depress wages, and undermine the sovereign right of Americans and citizens of other countries to control their own economy and political choices. Enact fair trade laws that benefits local workers and communities.
    That's a Trump policy as well...
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    @Chloe, her complete platform is a bit overwhelming so perhaps if you could generalize or prioritize and name the top 3 or so things Stein stands for, that epitomize her, that would help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    @Chloe, her complete platform is a bit overwhelming so perhaps if you could generalize or prioritize and name the top 3 or so things Stein stands for, that epitomize her, that would help.
    This might help. It's her key points:
    A Green New Deal:
    Create millions of jobs by transitioning to 100% clean renewable energy by 2030, and investing in public transit, sustainable agriculture, and conservation.
    Jobs as a Right:
    Create living-wage jobs for every American who needs work, replacing unemployment offices with employment offices. Advance workers rights to form unions, achieve workplace democracy, and keep a fair share of the wealth they create.
    End Poverty:
    Guarantee economic human rights, including access to food, water, housing, and utilities, with effective anti-poverty programs to ensure every American a life of dignity.
    Health Care as a Right:
    Establish an improved “Medicare For All” single-payer public health insurance program to provide everyone with quality health care, at huge savings.
    Education as a Right:
    Abolish student debt to free a generation of Americans from debt servitude. Guarantee tuition-free, world-class public education from pre-school through university. End high stakes testing and public school privatization.
    A Just Economy:
    Set a $15/hour federal minimum wage. Break up “too-big-to-fail” banks and democratize the Federal Reserve. Reject gentrification as a model of economic development. Support development of worker and community cooperatives and small businesses. Make Wall Street, big corporations, and the rich pay their fair share of taxes. Create democratically run public banks and utilities. Replace corporate trade agreements with fair trade agreements.
    Protect Mother Earth:
    Lead on a global treaty to halt climate change. End destructive energy extraction: fracking, tar sands, offshore drilling, oil trains, mountaintop removal, and uranium mines. Protect our public lands, water supplies, biological diversity, parks, and pollinators. Label GMOs, and put a moratorium on GMOs and pesticides until they are proven safe. Protect the rights of future generations.
    Racial Justice Now:
    End police brutality and mass incarceration. Create a Truth and Reconciliation Commission to understand and eliminate the legacy of slavery that lives on as pervasive racism in the economy, education, housing and health. Ensure that communities control their police rather than police controlling our communities, by establishing police review boards and full time investigators to look in to all cases of death in police custody. Demilitarize the police.
    Freedom and Equality:
    Expand women’s rights, protect LGBTQIA+ people from discrimination, defend indigenous rights and lands, and create a welcoming path to citizenship for immigrants. Protect the free Internet, legalize marijuana/hemp, and treat substance abuse as a public health problem, not a criminal problem.
    Justice for All:
    Restore our Constitutional rights, terminate unconstitutional surveillance and unwarranted spying, end persecution of government and media whistleblowers, close Guantanamo, abolish secret kill lists, and repeal indefinite detention without charge or trial.
    Peace and Human Rights:
    Establish a foreign policy based on diplomacy, international law, and human rights. End the wars and drone attacks, cut military spending by at least 50% and close the 700+ foreign military bases that are turning our republic into a bankrupt empire. Stop U.S. support and arms sales to human rights abusers, and lead on global nuclear disarmament.
    Empower the People:
    Abolish corporate personhood. Protect voters’ rights by establishing a constitutional right to vote. Enact electoral reforms that break the big money stranglehold and create truly representative democracy: public campaign financing, ranked-choice voting, proportional representation, and open debates.
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    I agree with some things, others are completely out there. That said, I always have some level of appreciation for a candidate that isn't openly bought, so respect to Jill Stein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    @Chloe, how is she going to pay for any let alone all of that?
    I'm not really convinced her vision for America would cost more than what the establishment dems and republicans usually spend, tbh.

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    A Green New Deal:
    Create millions of jobs by transitioning to 100% clean renewable energy by 2030, and investing in public transit, sustainable agriculture, and conservation.
    How? Would she centrally plan and push this through tax and regulatory penalties or encourage free market environmentalism and entrepreneurship. IOW, would she for solutions or allow people in the market to discover and test solutions? The government tends to force preventative measures that are quite costly and unproven and probably won't correct anything. Private business might end up exploring ways to help people adapts to a changing climate. Fossil fuel will be needed to fund any efforts so stopping the flow of oil will result in less funding for other solutions. There's no easy solutions.

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