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    Venezuela – another socialist experiment bites the dust

    Gullibility certainly plays a large part in liberal thinking, but there’s a fine line between it and stupidity and destitution for the ones on the receiving end.

    Hollywood’s Chavez-cheering stars & Venezuela’s victms
    As Venezuelans scream “we want food” in ongoing protests roiling the country, it’s important to remember how many of our celebrities plumped for the corrupt regimes that led to the starving people in the streets — celebrities who were, are and will continue to be free and well-fed.

    Venezuela is on the brink of total collapse
    The Marxist “paradise” once worshipped by such Hollywood naifs as Sean Penn, Oliver Stone, Danny Glover and Michael Moore is now forcing its citizens to work on neglected farms.
    The celebs haven’t been singing the praises of Venezuela quite as loudly as they did when Hugo Chavez led the country until his death in 2013. For good reason — under his handpicked successor, Nicolas Maduro, things have grown far worse.


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    The next time you listen to the likes of Sean Penn, Maddonna, Oprah Winfrey and Michael Moore, or vote for the promise of freebies, think about Venezuela, because if you’re not the 1%, you do not get the goodies.









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    They are sitting on the 2nd largest oil deposit in the world and they are beyond broke.
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    If dey can't pay fer food, how do ya `spect `em to pay dey's phone bill?...

    World Hangs Up on Venezuela as Phone Companies Can't Pay
    Telecom providers struggle to pay in dollars for connections; Maduro blocks price increases, squeezing phone carriers
    Already facing shortages of food and medicine, Venezuelans are at growing risk of being cut off from the rest of the world as the inability to get ahold of foreign currencies threatens access to phone calls and even websites abroad. Wireless operators Telefonica SA and Corp. Digitel CA have already suspended roaming services and international calls out of Venezuela after failing to extend payment terms with foreign phone companies. Prices have been rising for internet service, and even consumers who can pay often struggle to get working connections because of fraying infrastructure and outdated equipment. “There are operators that simply stop offering services because they can’t access dollars, and inflation is so rampant they just don’t know how to price it,” said Tina Lu, senior consultant at Counterpoint Technology Market Research in Buenos Aires. “The sad reality is that if the service is there, prices are now unaffordable for any Venezuelan with a median salary.”

    Last week, President Nicolas Maduro blocked telecommunications operators from raising rates, which could further hurt their ability to pay for connections. Telecom companies had increased prices as much as 10-fold to help pay their own interconnection bills abroad, making phone, internet and wireless services beyond reach for many Venezuelans. The situation could get worse if internet carriers can’t afford to connect to the outside world, since many Venezuelans rely on web-based services like WhatsApp to communicate with family abroad. In many countries, including Venezuela, internet providers have to compensate their foreign counterparts or an intermediary for data transmitted into their networks. If currency woes force the carriers to stop paying, Venezuelans could be blocked from accessing internet data hosted outside the country, said Jose Otero, director of Latin America and the Caribbean for trade group 5G Americas. “If their lack of dollars continues, Venezuela could enter periods of many restrictions to access the internet, including an inability to access content hosted externally,” Otero said in an interview. “If there is no internet, there is no communication; this goes beyond being an issue for the sector because there is potential for incredible censorship.”

    If the telecom companies can’t fix the problems they should sell them to the state, Maduro said on state television Monday night. “I say it like that to the telecommunications operators: if you say you can’t, sell them to us, because we’ll know how to manage them very well,” Maduro said. “It’s easy, and we’ll look for the way to do the transaction in a correct way and the fatherland will win. Nobody is going to set prices just like that. No.” Venezuelans have long used social media and foreign websites for news in absence of information from the government or state-controlled television outlets. There are about 16.7 million internet users in Venezuela, or about 63 percent of the population, according to the regulator’s latest data. “Venezuela is already isolated in physical terms, with more and more airlines canceling their services there,” said Pablo Bello, secretary general of the Inter-American Association of Telecommunications, based in Uruguay. “Now, operators cannot access foreign currencies and we see a new kind of isolation, one that could involve communication and connection, and one that worries us greatly.”

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    Give them Obama phones.
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    So, is it truely a socialist problem? Or is it another kind of problem that suffers Venezuela?

    Next time that anybody tell you about public services like healthcare, education... think in Finland, Germany or Sweeden

    I guess that talking about failure capitalist experiments like Salvador, Honduras, Haiti,... would be starting to play the same game that you play, and I refuse So, ignore this last paragraph.
    WORK AND FIGHT FOR THE REVOLUTION AND AGAINST THE INJUSTICE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    So, is it truely a socialist problem? Or is it another kind of problem that suffers Venezuela?

    Next time that anybody tell you about public services like healthcare, education... think in Finland, Germany or Sweeden

    I guess that talking about failure capitalist experiments like Salvador, Honduras, Haiti,... would be starting to play the same game that you play, and I refuse So, ignore this last paragraph.
    Venezuela has the second largest proven oil reserves. Even with low oil prices, they would have income if they could manage their economy. Something went very, very wrong.

    They also lead the world in another resource, copper I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    So, is it truely a socialist problem? Or is it another kind of problem that suffers Venezuela?

    Next time that anybody tell you about public services like healthcare, education... think in Finland, Germany or Sweeden

    I guess that talking about failure capitalist experiments like Salvador, Honduras, Haiti,... would be starting to play the same game that you play, and I refuse So, ignore this last paragraph.
    No, its the socialism all right and Honduras isn't very 'capitalist' at all. Honduras realized the failure of its own near-command economy, and even today the government has simply redirected its role. But even Honduras os doing better than it was and they actually eat there. Haiti had other issues like Duvalier and political instability and here two state owned enterprises.

    El Salvador may actually be a country with too little public investment. Their government is about 11% of GDP and people like Rahn put optimal government spending between 15-25% of GDP.
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    Maduro takes mobbed up drug baron as interior minister...

    Venezuela promotes general indicted in US on drug charges
    Aug 3,`16 -- A day after Venezuela's former drug czar was indicted in the United States on narcotics trafficking charges, President Nicolas Maduro defiantly named him interior minister.
    Maduro said Tuesday that he was promoting Nestor Reverol to the position that oversees law enforcement as a gesture of support for a man who had done good work cracking down on the drug trade in Venezuela and is being tarnished by the "U.S. empire." U.S. prosecutors on Monday announced the indictment of Reverol, who previously led Venezuela's National Guard, where senior officers are alleged to have been involved in cocaine smuggling. "He is a brave man who is not afraid of anything or anyone," Maduro said. "As interior minister he broke the record for arrests of drug kingpins. The DEA and all the United States drug-trafficking mafias want to make him pay, because the drug-trafficking mafia runs the Untied States."

    Also on Tuesday, Maduro removed economic czar Miguel Perez, appointed six months ago, who had been seen as a potential moderate reformer in the socialist president's Cabinet. Together, the moves seemed to signal that Maduro is doubling down on his existing strategy of antagonizing the U.S. and refusing to make significant economic reforms. The Reverol indictment unsealed in federal court accuses the general of taking bribes in exchange for helping cocaine traffickers by tipping them off about raids. It also alleges that from January 2008 to December 2010, he deliberately allowed cocaine shipments to leave Venezuela and returned seized drug money to traffickers. Reverol, 51, has denied using his positions to facilitate the trafficking of cocaine.


    Venezuela's National Guard Commander Gen. Nestor Reverol attends a ceremony in Caracas, Venezuela. On Tuesday, Aug. 2, 2016, Maduro announced that he was promoting Reverol to interior minister to show support for the general amid an attack from the U.S. "empire." U.S. prosecutors on Monday announced the indictment of Reverol, who once led Venezuela's anti-drug agency and National Guard. Reverol has denied using his positions to facilitate the trafficking of cocaine.

    The U.S. has indicted and sanctioned several other Venezuelan officials, including a former defense minister and head of military intelligence. Two nephews of Venezuela's first lady are currently jailed in New York as they await trial for conspiring to smuggle cocaine into the U.S. Venezuelan officials have regularly accused the U.S. of using drug cases to destabilize the government, and Maduro has a history of reacting to U.S. sanctions against officials by handing out promotions. The opposition said the Cabinet reshuffle was further proof that Maduro was committed to radicalizing the country and breaking off relations with neighbors. "Maduro is determined to shut himself off from the world," opposition congressman Luis Florido said.

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    Venezuelan women seek sterilisations as crisis sours child-rearing
    Thursday 4th August, 2016: Venezuela's food shortages, inflation and crumbling medical sector have become such a source of anguish that a growing number of young women are reluctantly opting for sterilisations rather than face the hardship of pregnancy and child-rearing.
    Traditional contraceptives like condoms or birth control pills have virtually vanished from store shelves, pushing women towards the hard-to-reverse surgery. "Having a child now means making him suffer," said Milagros Martinez, waiting on a park bench on a recent morning ahead of her sterilization at a nearby Caracas municipal health centre. The 28-year-old butcher from the poor outskirts of Caracas decided on the operation after having an unplanned second child because she could not find birth control pills. Her daily life revolves around finding food: she gets up in the middle of the night to stand in long lines outside supermarkets, sometimes with no choice but to bring along her baby son, who has been sunburnt during hours-long waits. "I'm a little scared about being sterilized but I prefer that to having more children," said Martinez, who with dozens of other women took a bus from the slums at 4 a.m. to attend a special "sterilization day" in this wealthy area of Caracas.

    While no recent national statistics on sterilisations are available, doctors and health workers say demand for the procedure is growing. The local health program for women in Miranda state, which includes parts of Caracas, offers 40 spots during these "sterilization days" but as recently as last year did not usually fill them. Now all the slots are scooped up and some 500 women are on the waiting list, according to program director Deliana Torres. "Before, the conditions for this program were that the women be low-income and have at least four kids. Now we have women with one or two kids who want to be tied up," she said. Health workers at a national family planning organisation and at three government hospitals in the states of Falcon, Tachira and Merida echoed her view that demand for sterilisations had grown in recent months.

    The trend highlights how the oil-rich nation's brutal recession is forcing people to make difficult choices. Venezuela is a largely Roman Catholic country where Church doctrine rejects all forms of contraception and abortion is banned unless a woman's life is at risk. The Archbishop of Merida, Baltazar Porras, told Reuters an increase in sterilisations would be a "barbarity." But Venezuela's crisis has triggered almost daily riots for food and slammed a shrinking middle class as well as the poor who were once a bastion of support for late leftist leader Hugo Chavez's self-styled "beautiful revolution." Pregnant women are particularly affected as they struggle to find adequate food and supplements, give birth in crowded and under-equipped hospitals, and have to spend hours in lines for scarce diapers, baby food and medicines. The government ministries for health, women and information did not respond to requests for comment.

    'I WANTED FIVE KIDS'
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    Caracas, Venezuela ~ Wall separating wealthy from poor

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    I read that food lines there are 12 hours long.

    That would be the left side of the wall.
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