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    Can we all agree on the following:?

    For the right: Feel free to add to this list.
    For the left: Feel free to debate me intelligently.


    Mitt Romney points that really hit home for me, that I think everyone (as Americans) should agree on are as follows:

    1) The role of government isn't just to keep people safe, the role of government is to protect the U.S. constitution. Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness is where it all starts. Yes or No?

    2) The best way to reduce debt is not by raising taxes, but by economic growth and then reducing spending. Yes or No?

    3) States having competition for people living in them with their own policies strictly exclusive to that state is MUCH better than the federal government mandating and regulating the entire country, and reducing states rights. Yes or No?

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    Yep. Romney was great. This race has changed.
    Obama...empty suit. Same old tired bull$#@!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrassrootsConservative View Post
    For the right: Feel free to add to this list.
    For the left: Feel free to debate me intelligently.


    Mitt Romney points that really hit home for me, that I think everyone (as Americans) should agree on are as follows:

    1) The role of government isn't just to keep people safe, the role of government is to protect the U.S. constitution. Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness is where it all starts. Yes or No?

    2) The best way to reduce debt is not by raising taxes, but by economic growth and then reducing spending. Yes or No?

    3) States having competition for people living in them with their own policies strictly exclusive to that state is MUCH better than the federal government mandating and regulating the entire country, and reducing states rights. Yes or No?
    1) As long as you mean these as negative rights. I may be mistaken but it felt like Romney was invoking the right to life as a positive in his reference to security. I think that that view leads to a much more broad view of the federal government.

    2) Yes.

    3) Most of the time, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaariancode View Post
    1) As long as you mean these as negative rights. I may be mistaken but it felt like Romney was invoking the right to life as a positive in his reference to security. I think that that view leads to a much more broad view of the federal government.

    2) Yes.

    3) Most of the time, yes.
    Please explain #1 above. Not being confrontational, just honestly curious as to what is meant by the statement.
    Democrats believe that "politics is war by other means." And they are at war with America, with common sense and even common decency. Those who would mount an effective opposition had better have a high tolerance for slime, slander and abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaariancode View Post
    1) As long as you mean these as negative rights. I may be mistaken but it felt like Romney was invoking the right to life as a positive in his reference to security. I think that that view leads to a much more broad view of the federal government.
    Security is good though. Security is what keeps missile defenses up and the National Guard.
    If you mean we no longer financially able to police the world due to the sheer size of it, I'd agree with you. (However, our allies like Israel should be defended if they are threatened or attacked... and that's something I don't think the current administration would do)

    Thanks for the discussion everyone, I'm just trying to make sure we agree on the big picture.

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    For me it was the closing statement. Romney was smart to go last, of course, and after Obama's stuttering and stammering, Romney laid out a clear comparison between himself and Obama, especially on jobs, and Obamacare.

    It's that kind of thing people remember.

    And you're right, this election has changed dramatically. When you have NBC and ABC both clearly stating that Romney won, with some vague apologies for Obama, then it's a new ball game.

    What will sell, is the clips.....each one I've heard so far, Obama sounds hesitant, unsure of himself, while Romney is hard hitting direct and to the point. I don't think I have seen a more clearly defined presentation since Reagan mopped the floor with Carter....and, for the record, that was a neck and neck race until the first debate too.

    For the record, he who clearly wins the first debate, usually carries the momentum through to the end. I doubt Obama can do much now to win it back....

    It is Romney's to lose now.


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    Lol I was too busy hammering my thoughts into my keyboard to check the news. Rush Limbaugh already told me what's going to happen, anyway.

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    Oh, Yes
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    Yes.

    I thought it very wise to expand the "security" aspect as Obama has had bragging rights on "killing Osama", but is dreadful on the constitution.

    I doubt the average voter will see his comments as an extension toward rights of the unborn.


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    I don't know if they got to it at the beginning as I was madly trying to get a radio signal up here in the Great White North. But I am surprised Obama didn't even get to mention immigration. It's a weak spot for Romney and it didn't come up at all, at least not in the last two thirds of it.

    Meanwhile, I kept hearing Romney on about "higher wages" and "12 million jobs."

    That's what will sell.


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