thanks to libertarians the nation may be cursed with the most corrupt white house in

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in living memory

Yes, the Republicans once again snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

You would prefer jeb bush?

he was expected to be the gop nominee as late as a year ago

libertarians had a chance to select ted cruz as a way to stop trump but I guess the God thing held many of them back.

anyway libs refuse to work for change from within the republican party and instead cling to their impossible dream of a libertarian president.

Which ensures one-party liberal democrat/socialist rule for the forseeable future

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It's kinda sweet irony if you think about it. So many Trump supporters here were backing him because of his hard line stance on immigration and his "wall, that Mexico will build". In fact, they were so in the tank for him that they disregarded the other 16 candidates that would have zero issues today beating Hillary by a landslide, all because of his hardline stance on immigration and the wall.

Now today, he is "softening" his stance on immigration....I tell you, it's almost as if it was scripted....

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It's kinda sweet irony if you think about it. So many Trump supporters here were backing him because of his hard line stance on immigration and his "wall, that Mexico will build". In fact, they were so in the tank for him that they disregarded the other 16 candidates that would have zero issues today beating Hillary by a landslide, all because of his hardline stance on immigration and the wall.

Now today, he is "softening" his stance on immigration....I tell you, it's almost as if it was scripted....

But you were just fine with all of Obama's, Kerry's and Hillary's flip flopping right?

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But you were just fine with all of Obama's, Kerry's and Hillary's flip flopping right?

Post a link or move on.

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I am amused by the predictions suggesting that before any votes are cast, Hillary has won the election. It is quite fascinating.

Yet in the real world, Trump continues to attract HUGE crowds to his rally's while Hillary almost has to pay people to show up.

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Post a link or move on.

Make me.

Yep, in Liberal loony land, moderating one's position is ONLY acceptable if it is THEIR candidate.

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I agree Mac Gary Johnson will cause trump to lose and to give us Hillary Clinton. If that happens because of Johnson I will vote democrat all the way down every ticket till the day I take my last breath. FOR SPITE. Because anything she or democrats do wont make a difference in the rest of my life.

[midcan5]

Kinda interesting, Jeb may have beaten Hillary, thirty years of innuendo and assumptions have created in the minds of the right and many independents a crooked candidate. But then if you look closely, nothing the Clintons have done is much different than all of the above. The propagandists on the conservative side follow Goebbels's dictum, tell a lie or half truth enough times and people come to believe. I have always been fascinated by people who think a rational, intelligent position can change another's view. Doesn't work, as the psychologists and others have noted, a truth must fit into the person's narrative or it is discarded. Brain washing works if done right and repeated often.

"Liberals and progressives have been slow to realize that their preferred vocabulary has been hijacked and that when they respond to once - hallowed phrases they are responding to a ghost now animated by a new machine, The point is not a small one, for in any debate, especially one fought in the arena of public opinion, the battle is won not by knock - down arguments but by the party that succeeds in placing its own spin on the terms presiding over the discussion. That's what the conservatives in and out of Congress have managed to do with old war horses like "individual" and so long as they are allowed to get away with it, the opposition will spend its time insisting that it too is for the individual or for color-blindness or equal opportunity - and before we know it all the plovers will be dead and all the subcontractors will once again be white." Stanley Fish, 'The Trouble with Principle'

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The US system is finally Falling apart, both of the major party's became more concerned with power and personal Wealth than they were about the people.

The fact that Libertarian's Can't support Trump, is likely to be seen next Election in the DNC with the Socialist that can't support The Democrats Candidate

And the Truth is we are likely within a Decade of the Dollar Collapse, and that will change everything. As welfare and most social programs become a thing of the past.

And of course the biggest problem that we have in the USA, is really not our politicians, but Education, and Media. And if those are not fixed we truly will be under the thumb of a tyrannical Government.

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Both Hillary and Trump are exact duplicates of a steaming bowl of diarrhea, which is why I will be voting for Jill Stein.