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    Frederick Douglass on Capitalism, Slavery, and the 'Arrant Nonsense' of Socialism

    Wage slavery, claimed by some, is just not the same as chattel slavery.

    Frederick Douglass on Capitalism, Slavery, and the 'Arrant Nonsense' of Socialism

    In November 1848 a socialist activist gave a speech at the 13th annual meeting of the Rhode Island Anti-Slavery Society. "Mr. Ingliss" began his remarks well enough, reported the abolitionist leader Frederick Douglass, who was present to give a speech of his own that day, "but strangely enough went on in an effort to show that wages slavery is as bad as chattel slavery."

    Douglass soon became infuriated with the socialist speaker. "The attempts to place holding property in the soil—on the same footing as holding property in man, was most lame and impotent," Douglass declared. "And the wonder is that anyone could listen with patience to such arrant nonsense."

    Frederick Douglass heard a lot of arrant nonsense from American socialists in those days. That's because most socialists thought the anti-slavery movement had its priorities all wrong. As the left-wing historian Carl Guarneri once put it, most antebellum socialists "were hostile or at least indifferent to the abolitionist appeal because they believed that it diverted attention from the serious problems facing northern workers with the onset of industrial capitalism." The true path to social reform, the socialists said, was the path of anti-capitalism.

    But Douglass would have none of that. "To own the soil is no harm in itself," he maintained. "It is right that [man] should own it. It is his duty to possess it—and to possess it in that way in which its energies and properties can be made most useful to the human family—now and always."

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    If he was only alive today to see one of Donald Trump campaign speeches ... if he wasn't kicked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    If he was only alive today to see one of Donald Trump campaign speeches ... if he wasn't kicked out.
    What do you think he'd say given what he did say in the OP? And what would he say about Clinton?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    What do think he's say given what he did say in the OP? And what would he say about Clinton?
    wait for it.................
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