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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Single payer. Bet the hard left chooses a model closer to the UK model than the Canadian model.
    Either of which will be a failure here.

    Only in the left wing world is applying more failure to correct a failure considered sound policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Either of which will be a failure here.

    Only in the left wing world is applying more failure to correct a failure considered sound policy.
    The Canadian model could be replicated with no issues in the US. It could be administered by each state as it's done here (by Province). If Ontario, with nearly 14 million people can do it, then so could almost any state. The model is scaleable.

    The vast majority of Canadians love this system. It works and delivers healthcare to all at a lower cost than in the US with the same or better results. It's not like the VA. Hospitals are not run by the state, but by private corporations. The provinces act as regulator and insurance. Most Canadians also have supplemental insurance through their employers that cover things like private rooms, dentist, medications etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    The Canadian model could be replicated with no issues in the US. It could be administered by each state as it's done here (by Province). If Ontario, with nearly 14 million people can do it, then so could almost any state. The model is scaleable.

    The vast majority of Canadians love this system. It works and delivers healthcare to all at a lower cost than in the US with the same or better results. It's not like the VA. Hospitals are not run by the state, but by private corporations. The provinces act as regulator and insurance. Most Canadians also have supplemental insurance through their employers that cover things like private rooms, dentist, medications etc...
    I had all that sh*t before Obama got ahold of my insurance. and for a hell of a lot less than I pay today. Yeppers, my insurance was just right, then some stupid m-f'er decided I need to pay for someone else's healthcare, or multiple someone(s) creating an automatic increase for me. Some illegal Mexican got my insurance, and I got stuck with his. So don't praise your precious insurance if you've never been forced under threat of jail, to pay for another's healthcare.
    You may have a right to healthcare, but you do not have the right to force another to pay for it. WE call that earning your way.......
    Let me ask you an honest question. What happens to your healthcare if the tax revenue for your healthcare falls to less than 75% paying participation? Gonna force those doctors to take and treat patients without getting paid, promptly? Will your government take out 2 or 3 trillion dollar loan to pay for it? What if it cannot generate the money to pay the bank back?
    What's around the corner?
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