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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    I hate to use the overused term, but that's a bit of a strawman, is it not?
    No.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    No.
    Sorry, that was a rhetorical question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    If you see the dynamics like you appear to, there is a major hole in your reasoning ability.
    Not really.

    Clinton wants to escalate US involvement in Syria in direct opposition to Russia.

    Our fighter jets and personnel are already at cross purposes there and walking a razor's edge.

    Clinton, for some insane, demented reason, wants to make the situation even more precarious and dangerous.
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    Syria is to Russia like Israel is to us. Imagine if they were doing what we are? We'd declare war immediately. Putin has shown great restraint honestly, we need a leader in there who understands the gravity of the situation, not some nutjob with a record of war, death and destabilization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Yeah, much better to elect someone who will bow to their will.
    Not being unnecessarily openly hostile=bowing to their will. How very Neocon of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Syria is to Russia like Israel is to us. Imagine if they were doing what we are? We'd declare war immediately. Putin has shown great restraint honestly, we need a leader in there who understands the gravity of the situation, not some nutjob with a record of war, death and destabilization.
    Who would that be? It's certainly not Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    It seems like Clinton supporters won't be satisfied until the USA and Russia are in a hot war with one another.
    Yeah, it really keeps me up at night.
    I have a big cook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Who would that be? It's certainly not Trump.
    Gary Johnson and Jill Stein would be so very, very, very superior and preferable to Trump, in this situation and generally really. But that isn't realistic sadly, and he's dramatically superior to Clinton sheerly on the basis of not letting warmongering instincts completely overwhelm sane and rational thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    This wont cause a war with Russia any more than the US involvement in Afghanistan in the 80's did or the US involvement in central America under Reagan.

    Russia doesn't want war and wont go to war over Syria. To suggest Clinton wants war is hyperbole and pretty silly.
    Why of course you are correct Mr Chamberlain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Trump advocated opening fire. Clinton has made no similar claims.
    She only compared Putin to Adolf Hitler.

    Russia and the US have been at odds since the second world war. We are not on the verge of a war with them. The conflict with Russia is a two way street.
    We're already in a proxy war with Russia, so we've past the "verge" a while ago. A NATO ally, Turkey, even shot down one of their fighter jets and machined gunned one of their pilots as he parachuted to the ground. Even Gorbachev said the US and Russia are in a new cold war. The only question that remains, it will it evolve into a hot war?
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