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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    You can apply to universities as a non-degree student and study languages specifically. It's nearly impossible to learn a language without some formal education. I taught myself basic Russian when I was 13 but I still can only read and write a minimal amount because the Cyrillic alphabet is something that basically has to be formally taught. German is admittedly easier than Russian because the alphabet is nearly the same (other than the umlauts and scharfes S). Most people don't know how or when to use umlauts. Boehner is actually Böhner, for example - umlauts when anglicized become oe, ue, ae, and scharfes S usually becomes ss or sz, I think (the scharfes S is a complicated letter). Also German has a lot in common with English, especially in terms of words that arose following the industrial revolution - car is auto, telephone is telefon, so forth.

    It really is a beautiful language, though. Unless you're being yelled at, in which case it is a terrifying language and you think you're about to be murdered.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    @Green Arrow I'd love to the turd in the punch bowl. Let me know when you are ready to begin.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    People don't bat an eye when the history of the Roman empire is discussed. Many people even glory in the legacy of the Roman empire and most people don't seem to mind that either. But the Roman empire was every bit as evil as the Nazis, if not more so. They conquered and enslaved millions and slaughtered millions more. Their public entertainment was as grisly and bloody as anything. And their ruling classes gave new meaning to the words greed and avarice. The only reason why people are so uncomfortable with the Nazis is not because of the crimes they committed, but because they're told to be uncomfortable by the modern ruling classes. Simply put, it's pure conformism and sheepishness and has little if any intellectual or moral basis.
    I disagree about the Roman Empire but we've discussed that before. I do agree with the rest. A more apt analogy, IMO, would be one between our attitudes toward Nazism and communism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hal Jordan View Post
    I haven't read this yet, but I will at some point. Subjecting ourselves to ideas that we disagree with is not only a good thing, but a vital thing. I have a friend that has a copy. Mayhaps I will be able to borrow it in order to go through it as well.
    Read Hitler's "Table Talk" Its on line!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bethere View Post
    Be the first on your block to actually read it. It's lengthy and it isn't written well. Struggle through it and let me know what you think.There is a new, legal, german edition for the first time ever. It is totally annotated to appease those who would ban it. This, of course is not it. As for me? I am not a book burner, but if forced to burn books I would start with this one.
    I visited the GW Bush library the other day;

    The shelves inside are barren, but there is a huge pile of ashes out back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    People don't bat an eye when the history of the Roman empire is discussed. Many people even glory in the legacy of the Roman empire and most people don't seem to mind that either. But the Roman empire was every bit as evil as the Nazis, if not more so. They conquered and enslaved millions and slaughtered millions more. Their public entertainment was as grisly and bloody as anything. And their ruling classes gave new meaning to the words greed and avarice. The only reason why people are so uncomfortable with the Nazis is not because of the crimes they committed, but because they're told to be uncomfortable by the modern ruling classes. Simply put, it's pure conformism and sheepishness and has little if any intellectual or moral basis.
    Mussolini adored the Romans, and sorta modeled his fascism on it!

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    I wouldn't read it. I wouldn't ban it, but I wouldn't let my children read it nor would I let it in my home. Y'know, thinking about it, I might ban it. Maybe. Possibly. There's a line. It's way out there. I've complained about one (1) post since I've been here. It was a vile anti-Semitic post that I asked a mod to remove. It was so so so vile, it crossed the line -- a line that I thought was universally recognized. To me, that book might be the one or two that is universally recognized. Like @Bethere, I'm not a book burner, I'm a free-speecher, I might though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    I recently bought a copy of Mein Kampf - I've read it before, but now I want to do sort of a read-through on the forum of it.

    Upon reading both that I bought a copy of Mein Kampf and want to do a study of it on the forum, most rational people start to get uncomfortable, and rightfully so, so I feel I must be clear on something before this starts: This will not be a pro-Hitler study. I myself am a firm follower of Judaism, and I find the man and his ideas repugnant. The point is rather to shine a light on the darkness of Hitler's mind. To quote Abraham Foxman, who wrote the introduction to my copy of Mein Kampf (the quote itself from that introduction):



    This is why I made this a tPF thread. Any neo-Nazis that want to come out of the shadows and try posting propaganda as a result of this thread will be crushed swiftly. This will not become a pro-Hitler or pro-Nazi thread.
    We read bits of it in Civics class in high school, but I never read the whole thing, and I don't remember much now. I have a copy somewhere I could try to dig out.

    I remember the teacher trying to get past our sense of thinking the words were evil, but I struggled with that. I think I would be better about it now.
    My thoughts are that you cannot avoid something by burying your head in the sand. To avoid a revival of Hitler's movement, in my opinion, requires understanding it and being able to accurately identify early signs.

    Might be an interesting proposal. I'd be willing to try...a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I wouldn't read it. I wouldn't ban it, but I wouldn't let my children read it nor would I let it in my home. Y'know, thinking about it, I might ban it. Maybe. Possibly. There's a line. It's way out there. I've complained about one (1) post since I've been here. It was a vile anti-Semitic post that I asked a mod to remove. It was so so so vile, it crossed the line -- a line that I thought was universally recognized. To me, that book might be the one or two that is universally recognized. Like @Bethere, I'm not a book burner, I'm a free-speecher, I might though.
    The problem as I see it with banning anything is that it creates a "forbidden" mystique, and folks (especially young folks) like nothing more than to figure out why something is forbidden. It's a lure.
    ""A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul" ~George Bernard Shaw

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    For anyone who wants to study along -- I found it in the public domain -- hosted by Project Gutenberg.

    http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200601.txt
    ""A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul" ~George Bernard Shaw

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