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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    I recently bought a copy of Mein Kampf - I've read it before, but now I want to do sort of a read-through on the forum of it.

    Upon reading both that I bought a copy of Mein Kampf and want to do a study of it on the forum, most rational people start to get uncomfortable, and rightfully so, so I feel I must be clear on something before this starts: This will not be a pro-Hitler study. I myself am a firm follower of Judaism, and I find the man and his ideas repugnant. The point is rather to shine a light on the darkness of Hitler's mind. To quote Abraham Foxman, who wrote the introduction to my copy of Mein Kampf (the quote itself from that introduction):



    This is why I made this a tPF thread. Any neo-Nazis that want to come out of the shadows and try posting propaganda as a result of this thread will be crushed swiftly. This will not become a pro-Hitler or pro-Nazi thread.
    I would also like you to read Shirer's Rose and Fall of the Third Reich and Albert Speer's, Inside the Third Reich, particularly the latter and the latter should be read with the knowledge that Speer, who really should've hung at Nuremberg, is writing to exculpate Speer of course.

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    The Nuremberg trials were a farce.

    Why do you believe Speer should have been hanged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    The Nuremberg trials were a farce.

    Why do you believe Speer should have been hanged?
    Speer was spared the noose and as Armaments Minister he shouldn't have been. He ground people to dust and he knew it too. He epitomozes the banality of evil in the sense that Speer isn't an inherently bad person, he was a good person seduced into a morally bankrupt system. I think he was spared because he exuded a certain amount of class that made being in his presence appealing as opposed to somebody like Streicher for instance.

    As far as it being a farce, General Ohlendorf, in many respects a well educated figure like Speer was convicted and hanged in the Einsatzgruppen trials. Ohlendorf, when confronted with reports of sadistic tortuous execution, for instance bashing infant skulls with rifle butts, told the executioners that a mother holding a baby should be shot with one rifle bullet to kill both.

    Yeah, a real farce that was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    The Nuremberg trials were a farce.

    Why do you believe Speer should have been hanged?
    And why were the Nuremberg trials a farce?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    You can apply to universities as a non-degree student and study languages specifically. It's nearly impossible to learn a language without some formal education. I taught myself basic Russian when I was 13 but I still can only read and write a minimal amount because the Cyrillic alphabet is something that basically has to be formally taught. German is admittedly easier than Russian because the alphabet is nearly the same (other than the umlauts and scharfes S). Most people don't know how or when to use umlauts. Boehner is actually Böhner, for example - umlauts when anglicized become oe, ue, ae, and scharfes S usually becomes ss or sz, I think (the scharfes S is a complicated letter). Also German has a lot in common with English, especially in terms of words that arose following the industrial revolution - car is auto, telephone is telefon, so forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    And why were the Nuremberg trials a farce?
    The Nuremberg trials made a mockery of the justice system. They created laws that didn't exist before the trials and then found people guilty of them. It was all a dog and pony show to punish a vanquished enemy and try to give it an air of legitimacy by pretending it was an actual trial.

    I would have had more respect for the process if they had just taken the accused out and said "Hey guys... you lost." and shot them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    The Nuremberg trials made a mockery of the justice system. They created laws that didn't exist before the trials and then found people guilty of them. It was all a dog and pony show to punish a vanquished enemy and try to give it an air of legitimacy by pretending it was an actual trial.

    I would have had more respect for the process if they had just taken the accused out and said "Hey guys... you lost." and shot them.
    So, acting like them was the answer. Putting war criminals on trial and actually charging them with the attempted extinction with prejudice of a race of human beings and making that entire system of genocide stand responsible in a world court; for the protection of the world in the future - was a farce...

    Interesting.

    By the way, the vanquished were not on trial, the criminals were. Their entire belief system was on trial, and the whole thing went to the gallows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newpublius View Post
    I would also like you to read Shirer's Rose and Fall of the Third Reich and Albert Speer's, Inside the Third Reich, particularly the latter and the latter should be read with the knowledge that Speer, who really should've hung at Nuremberg, is writing to exculpate Speer of course.
    Speer was an architect; why should he have been executed?

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