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    Battle of Leipzig ("Battle of the Nations"), 1813

    Battle of Leipzig ("Battle of the Nations"), 1813

    This was one of, if not, the largest of the Napoleonic battles.


    Schwarzenberg's original plan called for a secondary attack on the bridge between Leipzig and Lindenau, and a main attack astride the Pleisse River. According to his plan Blucher and Gyulai would attack Lindenau, while Merveldt, Hessen-Homburg and the Prussian Guard would advance between the Pleisse and the Elster, the rest of the troops along the Pleisse's eastern bank. Schwarzenberg's plan had the unusual virtue of being so bad that everyone protested. Tsar Alexander, "surprised beyond measure at this unanimity among his generals", intervened, forcing Schwarzenberg to develop a new plan that was largely designed to let everyone do as they pleased. Blucher's axis of advance was shifted northward to the Halle road, the Russian and Prussian guards and the Russian heavy cavalry would be amassed at Rotha in general reserve. The Austrian grenadiers and cuirassiers would advance between the rivers. (Esposito & Elting - "Military History and Atlas of the Napoleonic wars."


    On map: Battle of the Nations 16-19th October 1813
    Deployment of troops at Leipzig.
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    Not sure it's even a contest. I think this was the largest battle by far.
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    Thank you for posting this @Peter1469 . It has really piqued my interest. I haven't read much about the last few campaigns of Napoleon I and now I want to. I just did some light reading on this battle and, not only was it the largest battle, it was also the bloodiest. I also didn't know that Marshall Poniatowski was killed at Leipzig. As I'm sure his name indicates, he was a Pole who became a French Marshall. Oddly enough, he was awarded his Marshall's baton the day before he was killed. Many thousands of Poles fought for the First Empire. There were 15,000 Poles at Leipzig who, unlike their German counterparts in the Confederation of the Rhine, fought well not least because they had every reason to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Thank you for posting this @Peter1469 . It has really piqued my interest. I haven't read much about the last few campaigns of Napoleon I and now I want to. I just did some light reading on this battle and, not only was it the largest battle, it was also the bloodiest. I also didn't know that Marshall Poniatowski was killed at Leipzig. As I'm sure his name indicates, he was a Pole who became a French Marshall. Oddly enough, he was awarded his Marshall's baton the day before he was killed. Many thousands of Poles fought for the First Empire. There were 15,000 Poles at Leipzig who, unlike their German counterparts in the Confederation of the Rhine, fought well not least because they had every reason to.
    Your welcome. I had always focused on other wars for whatever reason. But learning is part of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Your welcome. I had always focused on other wars for whatever reason. But learning is part of life.
    I loved the Napoleonic era as a child but the campaigns of 1813 and 1814 were just something I took less interest in for some reason.

    It's one of the simpler pleasures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I loved the Napoleonic era as a child but the campaigns of 1813 and 1814 were just something I took less interest in for some reason.

    It's one of the simpler pleasures.
    I focused on Peter the Great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I focused on Peter the Great.
    Interesing period and representative of Russia's identity conflict. Peter was a westernizer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Interesing period and representative of Russia's identity conflict. Peter was a westernizer.
    true.

    And strangely I have never made it to Russia. I have been to over 35 counties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    true.

    And strangely I have never made it to Russia. I have been to over 35 counties.
    It's funny because Leipzig occurred during the height of Russia's participation in the European state system and balance of power. Never before or since has Russia been more Western than it during the Napoleonic Wars. A Russian army occupied Paris in 1814! Little over a century later that would be the stuff of nightmares.
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