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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens Fan View Post
    If memory serves me correctly, Art Modell had been asking for years for a stadium because the one at the time was unsafe, but the city refused to replace it. Seems to me there were other issues involving money, and that in the end it was all about business. Also, Modell had been shopping the team out to several cities, we just won out because of the investment we were willing to make (M&T Bank Stadium). But, it happened at a time in my life where I was not sober often, so my details could be off. Either way, we both have teams now, and neither of us have to deal with Art anymore.
    Apparently, the City offered Art a combined place with the Indians and he passed, telling the City he'd wait his turn. He didn't. Nobody in Cleveland was aware that he was shopping the team and David had stated early in August that they were committed to staying. You're right, Art's gone and won't be in the Hall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    I have a question for @DGUtley - why does OSU have a blow-up sex doll as a mascot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by del View Post
    and the lions and jaguars and the new browns

    the old browns never made it until they became the ravens
    You're right.
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    Speaking of Jim Irsay, $#@! Indianapolis.
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    You're right.
    $#@! happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    ... the worst pro team ever, in all pro sports?
    Probably not, there have been some awful teams over the years , but I wish they'd win a damn game and give my niners a shot at the number one draft choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens Fan View Post
    In fairness, they have made it to the big game more times than the Eagles have...

    But then, who hasn't?
    The Cleveland Browns have never been to the super bowl. I can't remember the last time they even had a winning record or made the playoffs.

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    When a team is as bad as the Browns are there can only be one reason. Bad owners. Too bad Cleveland can't force a buyout.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    When a team is as bad as the Browns are there can only be one reason. Bad owners. Too bad Cleveland can't force a buyout.

    Obviously the the people making the decisions on the acquisition of talent are doing a horrible job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    The Cleveland Browns have never been to the super bowl. I can't remember the last time they even had a winning record or made the playoffs.
    The Cleveland Browns won an NFL Championship in 1964. The NFL Championship was the Super Bowl before it was called the Super Bowl.
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