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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Slight overreaction......
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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    It's not so much that William,it's the current agenda to make us all approve and declare it"normal"Evolution favors those who procreate.If homoism was all we had the human race would be fossils in a river.I don't hate those who practice it, I hate the idea that I am supposed to declare it "normal"It aint and I won't
    Thanks for that explanation - like I said, I don't understand either homosexuality or the objections to homosexuality. But I can understand that it is not the statistical norm, as only a very small percentage of people appear to be gay. But we were taught in class that, while it may not be normal in the statistical sense, it is natural in the sense that it occurs in nature. You are a clever person, so I didn't think you would hate someone for something he didn't choose to be. And TBH, it's not something I even think about much, cos it doesn't affect me in any way, but I would not want neone to suffer over something he had no control over. But I have heard and read so many nasty things about '$#@!s' and 'poofters' that I thought I would try to find out why.
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    I prefer raw oysters and women, in no particular order
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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    I prefer raw oysters and women, in no particular order
    Raw oysters - eew!

    My only problem with wimmen is the ones I fancy (which is just about all) don't fancy me.

    Seriously, I like older chicks - the ones my age are too immature and giggly. But the older ones treat me like their kid brother.
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    I feel ya, my wife is 66 and i'm 36.I go for the cougars.Whats wrong witcha?Raw oysters are the shizzel
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    *shrug* I live my life as I please and don't ask anyone for permission or approval.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Slight overreaction......
    And yet, he did provide an awesome band name: The Sex Punks.

    I'm claiming it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    Why do some people seem to have a problem with homosexuality? I don't understand it, and I don't really know any gays, but I don't understand how what people do in private with each other can affect neone else.

    I know religious people say the Bible condemns it, but like we don't even know for sure if there is a God, so all we know about the Bible is it's just a collection of stories about an ancient nomadic desert tribe. But doesn't matter what we believe, or don't believe, do we have the right to make someone's life difficult over something that's none of our business?

    I also know people go on about paedos like that's the same thing as being gay, but we talked about this in sociology class, and there's no connection. The majority of kids who are molested are girls, and by older 'straight' men. And a lot of guys think girl-on-girl activity is pretty interesting , so what exactly is the problem people have with homosexuality?

    And BTW, in three days I will be 16, (the age of consent) so older people can talk to me about these things.
    You are wise beyond your years, so instead of waiting for your birthday (and I wish you a spectacular one, by the way) I will respond to your post now.

    I have absolutely no issues with homosexuality. Growing up, I giggled and pointed if I saw same-sex couple holding hands, but today I fully support the rights of any individual to select a partner of his/her choice. That's the decision most thinking adults come to at some point. You are already there so you are a step ahead in that area as well.

    For some, sadly (a dwindling number), the idea of same-sex couples is so reprehensible that they feel actual animosity toward homosexuals. I feel badly for them, because their way is bitter, antiquated and relegated to dung heap. You are right that conservative religion is behind much of these hard feelings, but another factor figures in as well. Oddly, many who have publicly denounced homosexuality were caught at some point, of engaging in the practice. For those sad souls, I fear it is simply a matter of hating themselves that they've projected outward on the world in an attempt to disguise who they really are.

    My daughter grew up with a young lady who got married last summer to another young lady. I've known this beautiful young woman since she was just a little thing, and I never would have guessed she was a lesbian -- probably because we have false ideas about what homosexuality looks like on the outside. She and her wife are very happy, both are young business professionals, and I'm lucky enough to get to share their life events on Facebook. I am so happy for them.

    But, there is another reason for supporting same-sex marriage -- and that is to minimize promiscuity and disease. While there isn't a risk of unwanted pregnancy, there is a real risk of sexually transmitted diseases, just as there is an increased risk for promiscuous straight people. Committed, monogamous relationships reduce that risk.

    But most of all -- it simply isn't my business what anyone else chooses to do behind closed doors -- not if both parties are of the age of consent and both are consenting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    Why do some people seem to have a problem with homosexuality? I don't understand it, and I don't really know any gays, but I don't understand how what people do in private with each other can affect neone else.

    I know religious people say the Bible condemns it, but like we don't even know for sure if there is a God, so all we know about the Bible is it's just a collection of stories about an ancient nomadic desert tribe. But doesn't matter what we believe, or don't believe, do we have the right to make someone's life difficult over something that's none of our business?

    I also know people go on about paedos like that's the same thing as being gay, but we talked about this in sociology class, and there's no connection. The majority of kids who are molested are girls, and by older 'straight' men. And a lot of guys think girl-on-girl activity is pretty interesting , so what exactly is the problem people have with homosexuality?

    And BTW, in three days I will be 16, (the age of consent) so older people can talk to me about these things.
    You aren't age of consent in the US until 18 William but there is no reason that anyone can not discuss this with you. BTW you say you don't know any gays but you most probably do. I don't think too many of them announce it. Many people are very narrow minded about anyone who is different than themselves..
    Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I digress....

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    Lol, I understood what is involved in sex long before I turned 15 - but some people don't want to discuss sex or sexuality with someone under the age of consent. I think they are scared of being accused of 'corrupting children' or something dopey like that, and there is the 'your will understand when you are older' thing as well.

    Well, I dunno if the Bible is a 'fantasy book', but a lot of people say it is a collection of the tribal myths of a nomadic desert tribe. A lot of societies have those - like the Norse gods and that.

    But it is the intolerance and dislike that I don't understand. Like what's to tolerate or like if it doesn't affect your life in ne way?
    Is tolerate and respect to the others. Thing that many people cannot understand. Respect and leave the other people live their lives as they want. That is what many people cannot understand.

    If someone does not like that, then that persons should learn to tolerate that there is people that have other forms to live their live and they are as good as theirs, then they need to learn to tolerate that and they must not create an environment of hostility.
    WORK AND FIGHT FOR THE REVOLUTION AND AGAINST THE INJUSTICE.

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