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Thread: Obama Administration Allows Anti-Israel UN Resolution Against Settlements to Pass

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    It should pass. Israel's expansionism into Palestinian lands is infamous and criminal and we should not be sanctioning it. I have no idea why Israel has so much influence over our country in the first place. It seems like some Americans care just as much about Israel as they do about America itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    The most pro-Israel president of our time? Remember when Hillary had Israel give up property and all the Palestinians did was use it as a rocket or missile base? Surely the settlements are the problem. Yep.
    There is no "the" problem. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is complex and has many problems. The settlements are definitely one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    I would love to see Trump and Congress give the UN 48 hours to vacate this country.

    It also needs to be made clear to them that Israel is an ally of the United States and any aggressive action taken against them, even by UN forces will be met with the full might of the American military.
    Americans should not be responsible for defending Israel or any other foreign country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    What are you going to do, Canada?

    Send your ship out to stop us?
    They'll probably do the smart thing and watch us waste more blood and treasure to protect an irrelevant, tiny country who we owe absolutely nothing to yet seem willing to sacrifice everything for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    There is no peace process. This ends the "two-state solution." It also greatly damaged an American ally.

    The fourteen states who voted for this must pay a heavy price for their perfidy. Great Britain showed itself to be an unreliable ally.

    I think the first step President Trump needs to take is to have his State Department evaluate every foreign aid and military assistance program dollar flowing to each of those voting countries. Cut them.

    Next, the Congress needs to vote to defund the United Nations.
    Israel is an ally in name only. In reality, they are a constant drain on our country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Levin is no idiot.

    Yes, Obama, Kerry, and much of the Democratic Party leadership are anti-Semites. Many of their supporters are as well. Liberal Jews own this.

    This damaged Israel but it also damaged Americans. Barack Hussein O, always as Islamofascism supporter, is an evil, dangerous, anti-American Leftist. This is his legacy.
    Israeli apologists are notorious for leveling baseless accusations of Antisemitism towards anyone who doesn't prostrate themselves before the Israeli government. It's quite mad, actually, that a country as small and as irrelevant as Israel somehow manages to command the obedience and loyalty of a country like America, easily the most powerful and greatest nation ever.

    George Washington would be absolutely horrified to know that the country he put his life, fortune, and sacred honor at risk for has become a servant to some also-run halfway around the world. Utterly mind boggling.
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    ...a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.

    As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils. Such an attachment of a small or weak towards a great and powerful nation dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter.

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    It's almost as if Washington was able to look into the future and describe the typical Israeli apologist.
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    The United States will not support the use of any additional land for the purpose of settlements during the transitional period. Indeed, the immediate adoption of a settlement freeze by Israel, more than any other action, could create the confidence needed for wider participation in these talks. Further settlement activity is in no way necessary for the security of Israel and only diminishes the confidence of the Arabs that a final outcome can be freely and fairly negotiated.
    --Ronald Reagan
    My position is that the foreign policy of the United States says we do not believe there should be new settlements in the West Bank or in East Jerusalem. And I will conduct that policy as if it's firm, which it is, and I will be shaped in whatever decisions we make to see whether people can comply with that policy. And that's our strongly held view. We think it's constructive to peace -- the peace process -- if Israel will follow that view. And so, there's divisions in Israel on this question, incidentally. Parties are divided on it. But this is the position of the United States, and I'm not going to change that position.
    --George H. W. Bush
    Israeli settlement activity in occupied territories must stop, and the occupation must end through withdrawal to secure and recognized boundaries, consistent with United Nations Resolutions 242 and 338.
    --George W. Bush
    Israeli settlements are criminal and have been condemned by every US President since LBJ. The international community has developed a broad consensus that these settlements violate international law and basic morality.

    Pro-Israeli extremists in America are not only a fringe minority within the global community, but within their own country and political party. Yet somehow they are able to defy the consensus of almost every reasonable person in the world and drive ahead with the conviction that they're right and everyone else is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    It should pass. Israel's expansionism into Palestinian lands is infamous and criminal and we should not be sanctioning it. I have no idea why Israel has so much influence over our country in the first place. It seems like some Americans care just as much about Israel as they do about America itself.
    Interesting. You and Obama side with the Islamofascists against a democratic ally. There is nothing infamous or criminal about Israel building on Israeli lands.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    There is no "the" problem. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is complex and has many problems. The settlements are definitely one of them.
    Israel building on Israeli lands is only a problem for the Islamofascism supporters.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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