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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizzume View Post
    I doubt he's been all over Europe and NZ and Australia to make this conclusion. Generally people who make those kinds of herpy derpy "USA USA USA is the best country in the world!" kinds of statements know the least about living in other modern civilized technological 1st world countries. It's like how someone saying "I'm intelligent" usually doesn't show much intelligence.

    And he probably doesn't know that Australia, for example, has a much better economy, better health care and better education than the US.

    Which, awkwardly, makes claims of American "greatness" sheer nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizzume View Post
    I doubt he's been all over Europe and NZ and Australia to make this conclusion. Generally people who make those kinds of herpy derpy "USA USA USA is the best country in the world!" kinds of statements know the least about living in other modern civilized technological 1st world countries. It's like how someone saying "I'm intelligent" usually doesn't show much intelligence.
    I agree with you, but by the same token there are a lot of Euros, Aussies, and god help me Kiwis who love to slam the US having never visited here. We're a bit of a trip (in more ways than one)...and just like we are influenced by the leaders of foreign governments, it's really easy to watch Dubya or Obama and draw all kinds of conclusions about a nation even though it's silly to generalize 310 million people or so.

    At the end of the day both sides of that argument are pretty ignorant IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conley View Post
    I agree with you, but by the same token there are a lot of Euros, Aussies, and god help me Kiwis who love to slam the US having never visited here. We're a bit of a trip (in more ways than one)...and just like we are influenced by the leaders of foreign governments, it's really easy to watch Dubya or Obama and draw all kinds of conclusions about a nation even though it's silly to generalize 310 million people or so.

    At the end of the day both sides of that argument are pretty ignorant IMO.
    Not sure that meeting a warm, cuddly American on American soil would change many perspectives about American foreign policy, a dismal democratic process, and a failed Congress - for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awryly View Post
    Not sure that meeting a warm, cuddly American on American soil would change many perspectives about American foreign policy, a dismal democratic process, and a failed Congress - for example.
    Well +1 for admitting nothing will change your mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizzume View Post
    I doubt he's been all over Europe and NZ and Australia to make this conclusion.
    You doubt. So you don't know. Got it.

    Generally people who make those kinds of herpy derpy "USA USA USA is the best country in the world!" kinds of statements know the least about living in other modern civilized technological 1st world countries. It's like how someone saying "I'm intelligent" usually doesn't show much intelligence.
    As I said you own bias and bigotry towards that statement overrides the facts you know.

    Besides, you already admitted you don't have to visit every country to conclude yours is better and he could have easily done that as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conley View Post
    Well +1 for admitting nothing will change your mind.
    When you change, so will I.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awryly View Post
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    Why should they change? They're the one that's right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    You doubt. So you don't know. Got it.



    As I said you own bias and bigotry towards that statement overrides the facts you know.

    Besides, you already admitted you don't have to visit every country to conclude yours is better and he could have easily done that as well.

    Huh? Then why do I have to visit America?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awryly View Post
    Huh? Then why do I have to visit America?
    I never said you did. Try to keep up little doggie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awryly View Post
    When you change, so will I.
    I $#@!ing love NZ. Seriously, just looking at photos gives me insta-wood. Your education system is awesome IMO -- and that's the best path to class mobility. Education is the path to empowerment, not handing out free money from the government (really taxpayers). You'd be hard pressed to find many Americans who know a lot about NZ but that's doesn't mean they're bad people.

    Plus you and I have shot the $#@! about All Blacks but you never remember, and don't stick around long enough to establish any friendships here...your goal seems to be only to point out that America has a lot to work on. It's easy to complain, harder to find commonalities and work to make things better for everyone.

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