Hajj and great feast

[garyo]

Are you speaking in musbonics?

[shaarona]

The Crusades were largely counter-attacks to prevent Islam from overrunning Europe.

Jerusalem was never part of Europe or European.

[Mister D]

Jerusalem was never part of Europe or European.

It was a Christian city when it was attacked by Muslim armies. This is true of east Roman Palestine in general. What Peter is pointing out is that the Crusades were in part a response to Muslim aggression.

[shaarona]

It was a Christian city when it was attacked by Muslim armies. This is true of east Roman Palestine in general. What Peter is pointing out is that the Crusades were in part a response to Muslim aggression.

It was an Arab city.. Christians had no interest in Jerusalem until about the 4th century AD.

[Mister D]

It was an Arab city.. Christians had no interest in Jerusalem until about the 4th century AD.

It was a Christian city conquered by Muslim Arabs in the 7th Century. I don't know why you would try to deny that. Worse still, there was no Islam in the 4th Century and the very first church egan in Jeruslaem.

[Peter1469]

It was an Arab city.. Christians had no interest in Jerusalem until about the 4th century AD.

The Muslims were threatening to overtake Constantinople and pour into Western Europe.

Great city. Was there a couple of years ago. Will have to go back soon- to restock at the Spice Market.

[shaarona]

It was a Christian city conquered by Muslim Arabs in the 7th Century. I don't know why you would try to deny that. Worse still, there was no Islam in the 4th Century and the very first church egan in Jeruslaem.

Arabs have been in Palestine for over 3,000 years. Some converted to Christianity from Judaism .. and later to Islam.. but Palestine was never European.

[Peter1469]

Arabs have been in Palestine for over 3,000 years. Some converted to Christianity from Judaism .. and later to Islam.. but Palestine was never European.

It was a buffer for 200 years during the Crusader kingdoms period.

[Mister D]

Arabs have been in Palestine for over 3,000 years. Some converted to Christianity from Judaism .. and later to Islam.. but Palestine was never European.

Muslims attacked Christian states throughout the Levant, north Africa, and even Europe itself. In fact, the Christian holy places were conquered y Muslim armies. not sure why you deny this...

[shaarona]

It was a buffer for 200 years during the Crusader kingdoms period.

Buffering what?

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/041109b.html

Have you read the Israeli scholar Shlomo Sands on the Diaspora?