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    Quote Originally Posted by roadmaster View Post
    The Gazans are poor because they invests their efforts in terror instead of building their state.
    Gaza is very crowded.. most of the people there are refugees driven from the West Bank. Refugees are typically very poor.

    They have little water and that coastal aquifer is pumped to Israeli settlements.

    They also have their electricity turned off regularly.

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    Arabs are typically poor. It's amazing how they let their governments dodge responsibilty by scapegoating the Jews.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Arabs are typically poor. It's amazing how they let their governments dodge responsibilty by scapegoating the Jews.
    Israel would be very poor if not for foreign aid, loans and grants over the past 60 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaarona View Post
    Israel would be very poor if not for foreign aid, loans and grants over the past 60 years.
    Nonsense. I can understand why Arabs are so resentful of Israel though. Some Jews build a successful state where the Arabs have failed repeatedly. It must be humiliating for them and they are a shame culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaarona View Post
    Gaza is very crowded.. most of the people there are refugees driven from the West Bank. Refugees are typically very poor.

    They have little water and that coastal aquifer is pumped to Israeli settlements.

    They also have their electricity turned off regularly.
    What did you want Israel to do? Hamas chose to launch rockets from water facility and took its risk. They have to defend themselves. Hamas should do what is best for his country and work with Israel and both could share the ports. Prosper in both countries without war. Give the youth a chance. Some of the Palestinian infrastructure in Gaza-Strip was used for military/terror purpose. He broke all agreements with them. We don't bomb Canada or Mexico. Yes, they will have their electricity turned off. Is Israel responsible for paying for this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Nonsense. I can understand why Arabs are so resentful of Israel though. Some Jews build a successful state where the Arabs have failed repeatedly. It must be humiliating for them and they are a shame culture.
    Yep... The European Jews sought sanctuary in Palestine and immediately felt themselves both superior to the Arabs and entitled to their land and water. Conflict was assured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadmaster View Post
    What did you want Israel to do? Hamas chose to launch rockets from water facility and took its risk. They have to defend themselves. Hamas should do what is best for his country and work with Israel and both could share the ports. Prosper in both countries without war. Give the youth a chance. Some of the Palestinian infrastructure in Gaza-Strip was used for military/terror purpose. He broke all agreements with them. We don't bomb Canada or Mexico. Yes, they will have their electricity turned off. Is Israel responsible for paying for this?
    Hamas has only been around since 1987.. The Israelis have been taking land and water since 1967.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaarona View Post
    Yep... The European Jews sought sanctuary in Palestine and immediately felt themselves both superior to the Arabs and entitled to their land and water. Conflict was assured.
    In terms of education, average IQ, and a sheer willingness to live a civilized life they are "superior" to Arabs. Arabs really need to come to terms with Israel and stop letting their own leaders off the hook.
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    Wahhabis destroy Mecca without Resistance

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    VIKTOR REZNOV – NOVEMBER 6, 2012 – POSTED IN: SIDEVIEWS

    The ruling sect of Wahhabis demolishes historic buildings in Mecca and Medina.

    "Why there are many protests worldwide over cartoons and films, which are seen as an attack on the faith, but we hear not even a peep from you about the fact that the Saudi royal family is destroying the holiest places of Islam?

    Is this no attack on the faith?
    The ruling sect of Wahhabis demolishes historic buildings in Mecca and Medina, and there is no protest. Such as the birth house of Mohammed, there is a library now. Added to this is that the Wahhabis are those who fund the Islamic extremists of the Salafists that are pushing the entire Islam in a bad light with their bloodthirsty terrorism.


    The regime in Saudi Arabia is the worst, most brutal and inhumane dictatorship in the world. The Islam of the Wahhabis, which is practiced there, has nothing to do with the Prophet’s message. They are so extreme; they destroy the whole history and tradition.
    In Mecca, even the house of the first wives of Muhammad, Khadija or “the Mother of Islam”, was demolished, and they have built a public toilet on that place. Other historic buildings are also gone, so that King Abdullah can build more skyscrapers, shopping malls and a large mosque on it.

    Next to the Kaaba, there is already a skyscraper with the largest clock in the world, the Abraj Al Bait Tower, part of a luxury apartment- and hotel complex, which is run by the European company Accor. Owner of the buildings is the Saudi Binladin Group, so the family of Osama Bin Laden.

    The holiest place of Islam, where all should be equal, was converted into a kind of Las Vegas with gigantism in its neighbourhood, where the rich people live in luxury, although the whole Hajj should be actually marked by modesty and chastity.
    In the middle, very tiny, there is the Kaaba, next to the massive luxury complex:

    Abraj Al-Bait Towers / Mecca Royal Hotel Clock Tower



    In the second holiest place, in Medina, soon three old mosques of the 7th century, so from the early days of Islam, are demolished. They are dedicated to Mohammed and two of his closest followers, Abu Bakr and Umar.

    At the same location, there is also the Masjid Ghamama – the place where the Prophet gave his first prayers for the Eid festival. The largest mosque in the world shall be built there, for 1.2 million believers, with magnificent shopping malls and luxury hotels.

    Already 95 percent of the 1,000 year-old buildings in the centre of both cities were destroyed in the past 20 years. Even in Bosnia, the most beautiful mosques of the Ottoman period are replaced by ugly Saudi mosques because the Wahhabis do hate the Ottoman architecture.

    The Wahhabis are like the Puritans in Christianity, totally extreme in their interpretation of the Holy Scripture, with intolerance, breeding and punishment; they destroy everything that does not fit in their eyes. However, this is only true for the rabble, because the members of the Saudi royal family are living in the greatest pageantry, in golden palaces, they love the most opulent materialism, worship the God of Mammon and they are quite closely connected with the enemies of humanity. The best example is Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud, or Bandar Bush as he is also called, a close friend of the satanic Bush family.

    The Saudi royal family has several palaces in Mecca and Medina, which especially stand out as symbols of an entire squandering. This is in stark contrast to the principles of humility that is taught in Islam and which has been lived by Muhammad as a role model.

    Now, they even want to destroy the grave of Mohammed. It is covered with a famous green dome and also forms the centre of his Masjid an-Nabawi mosque in Media that was also built by him.

    The Wahhabis and their religious police prevent the praying and also the visit of the places, which are descended from the life time of the Prophet. The Wahhabis and their religious police prevent the praying and also the visit of the places, which originated in the life time of the Prophet. It is said that these extremists want to stop the faithful of rendering homage to “idols”.


    when Israeli archaeologists are digging at the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, then many Muslims are no more able to recover due to the sheer anger about this. They protest and proclaim loudly, that would be a desecration of the third holiest site of Islam.
    But if the first and second holy places are steamrolled by the Saudis, one is not able to hear a loud outcry. What’s worse, a cartoon of Muhammad or to transform the places of his actions into ruins and make them disappear?

    The whole Islamic terrorism is sponsored by the Saudis and provided to the Americans for their “war with terrorism”. The Al Qaeda was created by both in order to destabilize countries and to perform “regime changes”.


    The protests against the insulting of the Prophet Muhammad by the West are only then credible for me, if one is also protesting against the crimes and desecration of sacred sites by the Saudi royal family at the same volume. Even the slaughter of Muslims by Muslims in Syria must have an end and has to trigger a massive contradiction.
    Put the Wahhabis and their spawns of the devil finally into the offside. If that does not happen, then the excitement about Western insults is just pure hypocrisy." Source: alles-schallundrauch.blogspot.de


    Abridged from http://www.syrianews.cc/wahhabis-des...ut-resistance/

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