What is Race and Racism

[Cigar]

I'm pretty sure those are white people, Cigar, and when one considers that fact the rest of your comment makes even less sense than usual.

Then anyone who doesn't like the thread is free to move to another.

[Scrounger]

Can't speak about experiences I personally don't know about ... I've only lived in America ... how about you?

I've done short stints - especially in what is known as the third world.

[Safety]

Oh, certainly I do. It was a rhetorical question. The OP is really just a bunch of self-serving bull$#@!. They've basically made up their own definition of racism and proceed to argue from it.

Yea, it's pretty disingenuous. Racism is racism, regardless who does it or who has it done to them.

[Cigar]

Yea, it's pretty disingenuous. Racism is racism, regardless who does it or who has it done to them.

Denial is a powerful pill

[Scrounger]

No, that's not the message he is sending you today, that is the message you are trying to express, but are using Cigar's thread as a medium. You hit the nail on the head in regards to white nationalism/supremacism, their biggest fear is interracial marriage. Why do you think it took so long for the laws against miscegenation to be removed from the books? Because the south was rife with the ideology that you described above. Every move a WN/WS makes has that end game as part of the problem. A good example is how so many want to disband the department of education. Why? because it allows too much mixing of the races, but that is not the message that you can speak to the masses with, so you use terms like "vouchers", or "homeschool". This is why it's important to listen to people when they talk, because usually you will get to the underlying truth sooner or later.

It's pretty clear to me what the message is. Feel free to tell me what I think, however. People seem to think that they know the whites through and through, but whites are too freaking stupid to be able to interpret what they read and don't have the same ability.

Isn't it funny how "racism" manifests itself?

At the end of the day, people really feel they have whites figured out. For example, I do want the federal Dept. of Education abolished. Never though would I have equated it to race. For me it goes back to that out of context Jefferson comment regarding the separation of church and state. Jefferson was promising the Danbury Baptists that government would not interfere with a child's education and the church was tasked with educating children.

Well, the government got in the education racket, then had technical court rulings (like Wickard v Filburn) wherein they determined the government could regulate anything it subsidizes. Sooo... government then told us you couldn't mention God or pray or teach Christian values in a public school - all of which is reversible by getting the government out of the education business. But I digress. I did not know it had a racial connotation - Many thanks for telling me how I feel. I would not have known otherwise.

[Cigar]

It's pretty clear to me what the message is. Feel free to tell me what I think, however. People seem to think that they know the whites through and through, but whites are too freaking stupid to be able to interpret what they read and don't have the same ability.

Isn't it funny how "racism" manifests itself?

At the end of the day, people really feel they have whites figured out. For example, I do want the federal Dept. of Education abolished. Never though would I have equated it to race. For me it goes back to that out of context Jefferson comment regarding the separation of church and state. Jefferson was promising the Danbury Baptists that government would not interfere with a child's education and the church was tasked with educating children.

Well, the government got in the education racket, then had technical court rulings (like Wickard v Filburn) wherein they determined the government could regulate anything it subsidizes. Sooo... government then told us you couldn't mention God or pray or teach Christian values in a public school - all of which is reversible by getting the government out of the education business. But I digress. I did not know it had a racial connotation - Many thanks for telling me how I feel. I would not have known otherwise.

First ... what this is telling you is that Black People have opinions and First Hand Experiences, can we at least acknowledge that fact?

Second ... "I" ... "Personally" have never been "White" one second of my life, therefore I can't tell you how White People feel. Can I assume you haven't been Black either?

Third ... it isn't what people "say", it's what they "do" that defines them.

[Mister D]

Then anyone who doesn't like the thread is free to move to another.

What?

[The Xl]

Sounds like someone arbitrarily and selectively defining what racism is so only whites can fit the definition.

[Mister D]

First ... what this is telling you is that Black People have opinions and First Hand Experiences, can we at least acknowledge that fact?

Second ... "I" ... "Personally" have never been "White" one second of my life, therefore I can't tell you how White People feel. Can I assume you haven't been Black either?

Third ... it isn't what people "say", it's what they "do" that defines them.

What black people? You?

[Mister D]

Sounds like someone arbitrarily and selectively defining what racism is so only whites can fit the definition.

Pretty much.