January 2017 Third-Warmest Global January On Record

[resister]

A position I have advanced many times, but that does not change that the current cold as a witch's titty weather in the mid-atlantic was an outlying event not because of its severity but because of its duration, for instance. Last week was far more like the weather I experienced during winters living in the Pittsburgh region than down here in Dixieland.

Yet more evidence of climate change, if it the climate does not change, then we should worry.

[Kacper]

Yet more evidence of climate change, if it the climate does not change, then we should worry.

ten days of burrrrrrrrr isn't really climate. I have a bigger problem with the reliability of the models and the quality of the actual data than I do the abstraction of climate change. There is a divide between the US and the UK, for instance, whether 2017 was the second or third warmest year on record precisely because of large gaps in arctic temperature data and how they handle that in their analysis. This is an inconvenience that the AGW cult will always leave out of their conclusions--even people who agree global warming is happening cannot agree on recent data, let alone estimated data. There is no better example of that than how they handle outlying data drawn from Greenland's ice core samples that show it has been several degrees warmer there in the past than it is now and that was during periods when egads there were no cars or oil wells.

[resister]

ten days of burrrrrrrrr isn't really climate. I have a bigger problem with the reliability of the models and the quality of the actual data than I do the abstraction of climate change. There is a divide between the US and the UK, for instance, whether 2017 was the second or third warmest year on record precisely because of large gaps in arctic temperature data and how they handle that in their analysis. This is an inconvenience that the AGW cult will always leave out of their conclusions--even people who agree global warming is happening cannot agree on recent data, let alone estimated data. There is no better example of that than how they handle outlying data drawn from Greenland's ice core samples that show it has been several degrees warmer there in the past than it is now and that was during periods when egads there were no cars or oil wells.

Fossil records are a good indicator. Giant tortoises went extinct in Fl around 10,000 years ago (corresponding with the last ice, a mass extinction event)
Their presence is a guarantee that it never froze in fl for ages the tortoises lived here as even an ocassional freeze spelled doom, just like it does for their extant ancestors today.

I wonder how Al gore would explain such facts!

[Kacper]

Fossil records are a good indicator. Giant tortoises went extinct in Fl around 10,000 years ago (corresponding with the last ice, a mass extinction event)
Their presence is a guarantee that it never froze in fl for ages the tortoises lived here as even an ocassional freeze spelled doom, just like it does for their extant ancestors today.

I wonder how Al gore would explain such facts!

He would turn you over his knee and skint your backside cause Al thinks people who do not agree with him should be punished.

[Peter1469]

Where are the cold winters coming from?

The mini ice age

[Mister D]

ten days of burrrrrrrrr isn't really climate. I have a bigger problem with the reliability of the models and the quality of the actual data than I do the abstraction of climate change. There is a divide between the US and the UK, for instance, whether 2017 was the second or third warmest year on record precisely because of large gaps in arctic temperature data and how they handle that in their analysis. This is an inconvenience that the AGW cult will always leave out of their conclusions--even people who agree global warming is happening cannot agree on recent data, let alone estimated data. There is no better example of that than how they handle outlying data drawn from Greenland's ice core samples that show it has been several degrees warmer there in the past than it is now and that was during periods when egads there were no cars or oil wells.

It had been my understanding that when the Norse settled Greenland it was significantly warmer but this view is now challenged.

http://icelandmag.visir.is/article/w...r-not-a-factor

I'm a history nerd. Pardon the tangent.

[Peter1469]

It had been my understanding that when the Norse settled Greenland it was significantly warmer but this view is now challenged.

http://icelandmag.visir.is/article/w...r-not-a-factor

I'm a history nerd. Pardon the tangent.

Yes, for a time they could even grow grapes there.


So far as where I am, our summer was mild for the most part. We had a few weeks that were really hot, but that is about it.

[Mister D]

Yes, for a time they could even grow grapes there.


So far as where I am, our summer was mild for the most part. We had a few weeks that were really hot, but that is about it.

The last few Summers have been mild. The last hot Summer was in I think 2012 or 2013. It hit 113 or something like that in early July. Off course I ran anyway because I'm a stubborn fool but I stopped after a mile and a half.

[Mister D]

Yes, for a time they could even grow grapes there.


So far as where I am, our summer was mild for the most part. We had a few weeks that were really hot, but that is about it.

Anyway, that's an interesting article. They say the Warm spell in the Northern Hemisphere didn't impact Greenland.

[Peter1469]

The last few Summers have been mild. The last hot Summer was in I think 2012 or 2013. It hit 113 or something like that in early July. Off course I ran anyway because I'm a stubborn fool but I stopped after a mile and a half.

I went to law school in New Orleans. I would run at noon- a 6 mile course. Loved it.