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Thread: Florida: I can shoot you just for fun, claim I felt "threatened".

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    Lightbulb Florida: I can shoot you just for fun, claim I felt "threatened".

    You are dead, but you must now prove no threat

    The new standard would require prosecutors to essentially put on a nonjury mini-trial, requiring victims and witnesses to testify twice, prosecutors said. And with defendants no longer required to offer evidence — which usually means taking the stand — there will be little, if any downside, for them to claim Stand Your Ground.
    “If all they have to do is file a motion and say ‘I claim Stand Your Ground,’ we are going to have to go through an entire trial because we don’t know what specific facts they are using or claiming,” said Glenn Hess, the president of the Florida Prosecuting Attorneys Association. “We have to present our whole case. There is something wrong with that.”


    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/15/u...d-florida.html

    Because of this type of thinking, this is exactly why I carry a Gun today and got the training to use it. This is why I will not hesitate in the slightest to group a couple 147 grain HSTs in Mother-Forkers Chest at a drop of a dime, and worry about the consequences afterwards. It;s high-time the bullets start going back in the other direction. Maybe in a decade or two, common sense will return to reality. But until then, if you can't beat them, join them.

    This is what happens when Right-Wing ideology overtakes any common sense.

    What is wrong with these people? We'll never know, because soon they'll be Dead.



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    It's funny that you were asserting you'd do that very thing in another thread.

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    Were you following the recent case of the retired officer who shot that guy in the theater? It did not work for him.
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    OP's article quotes a prosecuting attorney whining that he'd actually have to make a case?

    Aw. Poor baby. He should have to work hard to meet his burden of proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subdermal View Post
    It's funny that you were asserting you'd do that very thing in another thread.
    Reading is fundamental:
    But until then, if you can't beat them, join them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    Were you following the recent case of the retired officer who shot that guy in the theater? It did not work for him.
    Playing by the numbers ... that's the under.

    You don't want to bet your life or your freedom on the under.

    Like I said in the other thread, I have no problem with my Wife coming to my trial, it's the funeral that bother's me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    You are dead, but you must now prove no threat

    The new standard would require prosecutors to essentially put on a nonjury mini-trial, requiring victims and witnesses to testify twice, prosecutors said. And with defendants no longer required to offer evidence — which usually means taking the stand — there will be little, if any downside, for them to claim Stand Your Ground.
    “If all they have to do is file a motion and say ‘I claim Stand Your Ground,’ we are going to have to go through an entire trial because we don’t know what specific facts they are using or claiming,” said Glenn Hess, the president of the Florida Prosecuting Attorneys Association. “We have to present our whole case. There is something wrong with that.”


    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/15/u...d-florida.html

    Because of this type of thinking, this is exactly why I carry a Gun today and got the training to use it. This is why I will not hesitate in the slightest to group a couple 147 grain HSTs in Mother-Forkers Chest at a drop of a dime, and worry about the consequences afterwards. It;s high-time the bullets start going back in the other direction. Maybe in a decade or two, common sense will return to reality. But until then, if you can't beat them, join them.

    This is what happens when Right-Wing ideology overtakes any common sense.
    What is wrong with these people? We'll never know, because soon they'll be Dead.
    Defendants never have to offer evidence of innocence. The burden of proof is on the prosecutor.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


    I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Defendants never have to offer evidence of innocence. The burden of proof is on the prosecutor.
    So I hear ... what I see is sometimes different. I had to pay an extra $110 and 4 hours of class so that I can carry my Gun in Florida. I spend a lot of time in Pembroke Pines, Naples and Bonita Springs. I just want a even chance, that's all.
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    The cry of the wild con! "Come on, pile on.....It's a cigar post! Get him!!"
    Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I digress....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    The cry of the wild con! "Come on, pile on.....It's a cigar post! Get him!!"
    Quit your crying, they are on topic post, unlike your troll post. .....
    There is no God but Resister and Refugee is his messenger’.

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